corksta: An article 16 months old??? Ok......... Intelligent guess still equals speculation!
Do you honestly believe P dealers make $100 a day?! Look up the price for 0.1g of P, you might be surprised.
End of the day the law is changing and it will make a positive impact. It's just a shame that some people can't see that and have got their noses out of joint as if pseudoephedrine based products were their lifeline, and are ignoring the problems this drug creates for society.
geekiegeek: The real problem is that the replacement for pseudoephedrine - phenylephrine - just doesnt work.
I have had a flu bout in the last week, brought some meds with phenylephrine that didnt do a thing except make me sleep all day. Went back to the chemist and brought some old school pseudoephedrine based pills and they cleared ny nose up straight away. Looks like I'll be off to the doctor everytime I get the flu now.
I would like to see how much P is actually made from locally brought cold medicines as from watching the news it looks like most of the pseudoephedrine is imported from China now a days.
Also according to research done, most P cooks used only 10% of pseudoephedrines bought over the counter in New Zealand in making P, with most of ingredients used coming into the country illegally.
Yeay, by banning the pseudoephedrines, we can stop 10% of the P from being sold on the street... If those drug dealers on the street used to earn $100 per day, now they earn $90...
itxtme:corksta:This is exactly right! John Key is acting like a freaken moron! I wish I could take my vote back now.. When I woke up and saw this it made me very mad; with attempts to stop the use of P (the minority) affecting the majority!
How little you know. I'm directly involved in dealing with people who take drugs and you have NO idea how many people are actually doing it. Just because you don't hear about it much in the media doesn't mean that people aren't doing it, and you also have no idea how involved the gangs are in all of this.
This is a great move that will help (not eliminate) curb the manufacturing process, and if you only knew what I know about the whole industry you wouldn't be making such misinformed comments.
I am a frontline health service provider, so can promise you I know more than you ignorantly suggest. I am involved with the hundreds of thousands of people who deal with symptomatic colds and flus that directly benefit from the medication! I also deal with the ramifications of drug abuse on a daily basis in the emergency setting – I know the affects drugs have.
It has just been quoted only 10-30% of pseudo is sourced from local supplies. There are mechanisms in place to curve this number and if more are required, so be it. To go to the extreme of requiring prescriptions of a drug that is fundamentally safe but abusive when chemically adjusted is madness.
The affects are not only going to be felt personally but economically. People who have traditionally taken 1-2 days off for illness will now take 5 or more refusing to pay 60 – 70 dollars for a course of symptom based treatments. Gp services in NZ are at an all time low in regards to providing service. ED’s (emergency departments) are being passed the buck and in turn are at breaking points themselves. Wgtn hospital ED was full to the brims last night and you are arrogant if you don’t think this will have an affect! Whats more is this is merely dealing with 10-30% of the source for P, what about the imports? Is that not worthy of more than a few more custom officers??
What about dealing with the supply of other chemicals for production of P, pseudo is not the only ingredient!!
I could argue this with you all day and still get nowhere; Get off of your high horse and look at the bigger picture. The easy option is to ban it over the counter, but it is not the best option!
Balchy: REally it isnt that expensive to see a doctor anymore anyway...sign up to a PHO and you are away $15 a pop.
rscole86: I doubt it would be cheaper, they would agree that increased costs would deter P addicts, and due to less being sold, the cost per unit would go up.