Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3
I'm @nate
6291 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 375

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275291 22-Nov-2009 21:05
Send private message

timestyles: The only 100% accurate way of setting up a website with this idea is either for detailsme to provide auctions on Trademe and for people to bid $1 using buy now, and then detailsme will know the accurate email address, or for people to register with detailsme, then they are presented with a code. They place this code on an auction that they run and detailsme links the two together. Why didn't they think of this?


Good way to implement a checking system to verify a person has control of their own account.  My solution was to provide your username/password and the detailsme site would check if it's able to login as you.  Insecure, but it would work.

What would TradeMe's recourse be over this site? Surely a list of usernames and contact details it outside their grasp?




424 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  Reply # 275296 22-Nov-2009 21:19
Send private message

 

[...]


My solution was to provide your username/password and the detailsme site would check if it's able to login as you.  Insecure, but it would work.

What would TradeMe's recourse be over this site? Surely a list of usernames and contact details it outside their grasp?



Yeah, that's another way.  My ideas aren't immediate, yours is.  Anyway, if this website gets a foot hold, I can see major changes in the way that Trademe would work.  Since people could bypass auctions, Trademe would get less success fees.  As a result, they could start charging for auctions, whether there is a sale or not.  


Trademe could also change their terms and conditions to require that users did not enter their details into outside databases (and their accounts would be frozen if they did), if they did that, I'd imagine that any detailsme type website would be effectively shut down with no legal action involved.

 
 
 
 


Awesome
4769 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1054

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275326 22-Nov-2009 23:39
Send private message

This kind of thing has been done numerous times before, the last one I am aware of was a (Now defunct) site called Trader Contact. Exactly the same concept. There were also others before this.

It sounds like a good concept, but I think in reality there are too many privacy considerations for it to work in the 'collaborative' way that these sites are designed to.

That logo too, I'm no lawyer but I suspect there is some IP breach going on there.

Time will tell I guess - Funnily enough the 'community' has alrealy made their mark on the site.




Twitter: ajobbins


8019 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 385

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275334 23-Nov-2009 02:26
Send private message

Kraven:

The website is a totally bad idea for a whole lot of reasons IMO.


This +1

Awesome
4769 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1054

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275411 23-Nov-2009 11:37
Send private message

I see there is now an authentication prompt when trying to access the site




Twitter: ajobbins


1204 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 56


  Reply # 275428 23-Nov-2009 12:22
Send private message

Its back up now, with 4+ times the number of traders it had yesterday, plus now says:

"When you add an entry it will remain pending until approved by administration".

It seems I can't search the letter "s" to bring up all traders with s in their name like I could yesterday, I must type in the exact name (which does work) or it finds 0 results.

2584 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275432 23-Nov-2009 12:50
Send private message

Really don't like the idea of people putting your contact details up without your OK. When I am selling something on Trademe the last thing I want is some random calling me up and hassling me to sell it to him/her direct.
Not to mention that my home phone is not listed and it is that way because I don't want it listed. Not because I have anything to hide but just because any/every one we want to be able to call us has or is given our number.







Media centre PC - Case Silverstone LC16M with 2 X 80mm AcoustiFan DustPROOF, MOBO Gigabyte MA785GT-UD3H, CPU AMD X2 240 under volted, RAM 4 Gig DDR3 1033, HDD 120Gig System/512Gig data, Tuners 2 X Hauppauge HVR-3000, 1 X HVR-2200, Video Palit GT 220, Sound Realtek 886A HD (onboard), Optical LiteOn DH-401S Blue-ray using TotalMedia Theatre Power Corsair VX Series, 450W ATX PSU OS Windows 7 x64

xpd

Geek,gamer,father
8234 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1079

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275454 23-Nov-2009 13:26
Send private message

Its not their first site by the looks of things...
TXT2CELLMARKETING.COM

Whois info name of detailsme matches creator of the above site....




XPD / @DemiseNZ / Gavin
 
Corsair Carbide SPEC-02 / Corsair VS550 / G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB / Zotac 760GTX AMP! / ASUS H81M-E / Intel Pentium K Anniversay G3258 @3.9Ghz

 

New ! Retro gaming / emulation forums - http://www.xpd.co.nz/

 

Internet provided by : Voyager - VDSL 65/28  -  Musical Support by : Like A Storm - Visual Entertainment by : Plex and Steam and Overwatch


261 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 275467 23-Nov-2009 14:25
Send private message

So can traders who have their cell number on that site now expect txt spam too?

I can't see any way to ask for contact details to be removed once someone adds them which seems like a major problem.

Awesome
4769 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1054

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275521 23-Nov-2009 16:17
Send private message

Comradehunt: Its back up now, with 4+ times the number of traders it had yesterday, plus now says:

"When you add an entry it will remain pending until approved by administration".

It seems I can't search the letter "s" to bring up all traders with s in their name like I could yesterday, I must type in the exact name (which does work) or it finds 0 results.


Looks like you can use '%' as a wildcard in the search, although their ajax doesnt start working until the second character is inputted (Try %%).

By this method tho, it only looks like there is significantly less records in their DB than the 658 like the footer says.

Perhaps all the others are 'unconfirmed' or spam or whatever from yesterday




Twitter: ajobbins


8019 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 385

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275555 23-Nov-2009 17:56
Send private message

The stupid site breaches every principle of the privacy act, there's no way it will last.  It's a straight up dumb idea...


http://www.business.govt.nz/Business-regulations/Privacy-and-information-legislation/The-Privacy-Act’s-12-privacy-principles.aspx

1 post

Wannabe Geek
Inactive user


  Reply # 275561 23-Nov-2009 18:06
Send private message

I for one think its great ! ever since trademe got sold to the ozzies their success fees have been going up and up ! this might help them realize that !! trademe wipes out any other auction site starting up in NZ so i think its great !

BDFL - Memuneh
58919 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 10292

Administrator
Trusted
Geekzone
Subscriber

  Reply # 275565 23-Nov-2009 18:13
Send private message

davidkim: I for one think its great ! ever since trademe got sold to the ozzies their success fees have been going up and up ! this might help them realize that !! trademe wipes out any other auction site starting up in NZ so i think its great !


I for one think you don't understand what our Forum Usage Guidelines are - the ones you accepted before posting here.

You work for the company developing the site, so stop astroturfing. If you come here clearly saying "I work for the company behind this service and..." then we could give you a chance. Instead you come pretending to not be involved. This is not the way we do things here.

Banned.








20256 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3822

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 275578 23-Nov-2009 18:34
Send private message

LOL owned...

How did you ID them Mauricio? just that they are the only person on the planet that things its a good idea or were they dumb enough to put it as their website when joining or something?




Richard rich.ms

2581 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 193

Trusted

  Reply # 275582 23-Nov-2009 18:42
Send private message

OMG.. lol.




Check out my LPFM Radio Station at www.thecheese.co.nz cool

 

 

 

Use this link to sign up to Bigpipe broadband and you'll get $20 off your first bill: Referral Link


1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Vodafone TV — television in the cloud
Posted 17-Oct-2017 19:29


Nokia 8 review: Classy midrange pure Android phone
Posted 16-Oct-2017 07:27


Why carriers might want to embrace Commerce Commission study, MVNOs
Posted 13-Oct-2017 09:42


Fitbit launches Ionic, its health and fitness smartwatch
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:52


Xero launches machine learning automation to improve coding accuracy for small businesses
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:45


Bank of New Zealand uses Intel AI to detect financial crime
Posted 12-Oct-2017 15:39


Sony launches Xperia XZ1, a smartphone with real-time 3D capture
Posted 11-Oct-2017 10:26


Notes on Nokia’s phone comeback
Posted 10-Oct-2017 10:06


Air New Zealand begins Inflight Wi-Fi rollout
Posted 9-Oct-2017 20:16


The latest mobile phones in perspective
Posted 9-Oct-2017 18:34


Review: Acronis True Image 2018 — serious backup
Posted 8-Oct-2017 11:22


Lenovo launches ThinkPad Anniversary Edition 25
Posted 7-Oct-2017 23:16


Less fone, more tech as Vodafone gets brand make-over
Posted 6-Oct-2017 08:16


API Talent Achieves AWS MSP Partner Status
Posted 5-Oct-2017 21:20


Stellar Consulting Group now a Domo Partner
Posted 5-Oct-2017 21:03



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.