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Topic # 56650 20-Jan-2010 09:52
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Two years ago when I first moved into my flat, we had mouse troubles during the winter. We would literally see a mouse somewhere random every day.

I bought some kneiss tip traps (live capture), and within hours caught one. The next morning I caught another, two days later another, and then that was it (for a year until last winter) there was no sign of mice. Then last winter I set the traps back up, and caught more mice.

However there has been a mouse/mice getting under the house chewing all night long, and in the kitchen in one particular cupboard that it has a fetish for (not sure why, theres more/better food just a little higher up). I set a new tip trap up in the perfect place, where it would have to go past to get to the cupboard, and day 1 it set it off, my guess is by leaning on wrong end, and then when I reset the trap, for the next month it did not touch it, but bypassed it to get to its fetish cupboard.

I have set the trap up in its original place where it had great success before, and for a week it has left it alone, even though last night at 1am I heard it in its fetish cupboard. You might say "put the trap in there", but the cupboard is one of those open/tilt outwards ones so the trap cannot be placed in there. I suppose a normal trap could be put in there but...

I spotted electric mousetraps and thought one of those would be worth a shot. There is a NZ website that sells them for $80, however they are out of stock. I have emailled them about when they will be getting more in.

Does anyone here know of any places/websites in NZ selling electric mouse traps?

[edit] I couldn't help myself, here is link to video of them in action, which I might add, is on the homepage of the company selling them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy7C9oq-Bmw

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  Reply # 291402 20-Jan-2010 10:19
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If these things run off mains voltage as it appears they do, I suspect they would need to comply with the Electrical safety regs which they may not.

Also I think the Animal welfare regs/groups  might come down on these like a tonne of bricks if they became more common, c.f the use of glue board traps was banned for rodents at the end of last year under animal welfare regs.



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  Reply # 291408 20-Jan-2010 10:39
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They run off batteries, 4AA or 4D depending on which version is purchased.

I was having a debate with a friend about glue traps a few days ago, he says they are now illegal (after I mentioned that there are heaps listed on trademe by various sellers), I see this is written on the NZ biosecurity site.

I would have thought these electric traps were a good system, instant death. I've seen many mice survive regular snap traps maimed.

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 291410 20-Jan-2010 10:45
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Sorry double post, which I edited. I posted a published quote from MAF officer of which they were clearly wrong (or misquoted) as the MAF site contradicts them, and the MAF will be correct.

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  Reply # 291418 20-Jan-2010 10:54
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Comradehunt: They run off batteries, 4AA or 4D depending on which version is purchased.

I was having a debate with a friend about glue traps a few days ago, he says they are now illegal (after I mentioned that there are heaps listed on trademe by various sellers), I see this is written on the NZ biosecurity site.



Banned for non-commercial use from 1 Jan 2010

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2009/0316/latest/096be8ed80480555.pdf

Commerical users have until 2015 to find a replacement method

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  Reply # 291426 20-Jan-2010 11:15
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How about the fall into the bucket method? Or put a bowl on the edge of a jar lid, mouse walks in, knocks bowl and is caught.



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  Reply # 291433 20-Jan-2010 11:29
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rscole86: How about the fall into the bucket method? Or put a bowl on the edge of a jar lid, mouse walks in, knocks bowl and is caught.


And then what do you do with them once caught?

There is not really a place for the bucket trick, and my flatmate stomps about a bit so the bowl/lid system would go off every other hour.

Poison bait is another obvious one, but I've heard it takes many days to kill them, and I'd be worried about them dying in the wall space and stinking the place out (If they do that?), or crawling outside and being eaten by one of the dozen of neighbourhood cats.

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  Reply # 291510 20-Jan-2010 14:10
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Have you figured out how they getting inside in the first place? You might be able to seal off any obvious entry points and resolve the problem for good.



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  Reply # 291518 20-Jan-2010 14:17
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Yeah I've worked out many possible and likely entry points (ie broken/missing windows, missing under house doors, holes/gaps in woodwork), nothing much I can do about it as I rent, and the landlord thinks we get cheap rent, so thats that.

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  Reply # 292360 22-Jan-2010 23:22
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I made one a few years back with an old gas furnace ignitor (the module was made by honeywell similar to "http://dticorp.com/catalog/honeywell-q652b1014-solid-state-ignitor-spark-generator-p-2323.html" but mine was a much older unit) whilst learning to program PIC chips, it killed the rodent instantly with no sign of suffering, original idea was to use a neon transformer but after flatmate built a rather scary jacobs ladder with it it, I'm glad I didn't plus the honeywell unit was much more compact as it was designed for intermittent use only.

Used a photogate to detect the rodent and peanut butter as bait. I had perforated sandpaper as the "floor" with metal plates top and bottom.

I did devise another one which used an old bird scaring unit and the mouse entered a hole in the side and the unit would go bang, propelling the instantly killed mouse or rat body about 500m away causing instant death in the process, problem was the hissing gas would often make them "run for the light" before the spark went off.

I have found the "Intruder inc" traps are very effective without mess and the proper branded "tip-up" traps are good if you can then dispose of the live rodent easily.

Get some Gorilla filler and plug up some of the holes first!

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