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  Reply # 305621 9-Mar-2010 10:11
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All Airlines are different in terms of what they will give you free and what you will pay excess for, but the Global limit for any bag is 32kg, (over that weight it will not get carried as regular baggage).

Air NZ runs a variety of free allowances, from 20 to 25 kg depending on the route and the ticket of the passenger,

I found this in regard to the hsitory of the piece vs weight system

In the late 60s the US CAB (precursor regulator to the DOT) spend a couple of years investigating what baggage allowance airlines should give in those ultra-regulated days. After extensive studies, hearings, and pencil pushing they came to the conclusion that 'cube', or volume, was more important than the weight. The decried that US domestic airlines all had to give 2 pieces free with a maximum weight of 70lbs each. Since they also regulated international baggage rules by acting on IATA agreements they disapproved IATA's 20kg maximum weight for Y (and 30kg for F, no C/J then) and 'ordered' that their piece system had to apply on all journeys from or to the US. While the Canadian government didn't do the same, the Canadian airlines insisted the same rule had to apply otherwise they would spill traffic across the border. Other airlines didn't want to apply the US rule everywhere so we ended up with two systems.

The DOT continued to regulate IATA baggage agreements until just a couple of years ago (although airlines had begun to abandon multilateral agreements at least 10-15 years earlier). As long as they had the power over IATA agreements they refused to permit any changes from that 60's era decision - however the free pricing clauses of open skies agreements meant they couldn't regulate what individual airlines did. More and more airlines began to 'do their own thing' and we have what we have today - a hodge-podge of different rules, prices etc.

IATA still has 'rules' for baggage but they no longer fix the pieces, weights and/or prices. They are only technical rules that provide the means for one airline to sell another's services on it's tickets (combine two or more different baggage rules on one ticket).

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  Reply # 305642 9-Mar-2010 11:23
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billgates: Yes you can take up to max 25Kg. I have done it several times and never have been stopped and so have many of my friends and relatives.

Baggage is 25Kg. It stops strictly at 25Kg. All my travel tickets have always said 20Kg as well but they allow extra 5Kg for main luggage.

Hand Luggage is strictly and I mean strictly 7Kg.

You can also carry an laptop in it's case which will not count towards extra hand luggage.

Wow.. hang on there.

Air NZ domestic is 25kg and because there is nobody to actually weight it now you can get away with more.

International is a whole different story, the limit for virtually all destinations and airlines ex NZ if you're flying Economy is a single piece no more than 20kg unless you're flying to the USA where you get 23kg and typically 2 pieces.

If you've got a 20kg baggage limit and get away with more then it's nothing more that luck or fidinging a ticketing agent who's having a good day. I've done enough flying to know that this is the exception rather than the norm and particularly in tough financial times for airlines ticketing people who are even a couple of kg over is a great way to make money.

There is certainly no 25kg blanket allowance of rule that you'll get 5kg extra without any charge. If you attempt to fly with more than 20kg on a 25kg ticket be prepared for a ticket agent to tell you to attemtpt to repack stuff in your carry on bag (if this weights less than your allowance) or be prepared to pay.

I fly International only. Never fly National. Prefer Car and the scenery. Singapore Airlines, Air NZ, Emirates, Freedom Air (when it was alive) and many others have never stopped me. I am flying out again to Singapore and then Sub continent from there in 2 weeks time. My mother flew weeks ago and she took 25Kg's no problem internationally. She is going fly to London in a week's time so will ask her about her baggage experience. She left NZ with 24.7 KG baggage.

@OP. Just to be on the safe side, ring your airlines and ask them whether it's ok with them if you bring a 25KG baggage.

Do whatever you want to do man.



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  Reply # 305652 9-Mar-2010 12:09
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Thanks to all,I will fly on the Royal Brunei airline to Vietnam.We are three people together(2 adults and a 3years old boy.

I have packed my baggages into 5 Boxes and is about 70kg together.Hopefully they will be okay.By the way I will fly tomorrow at 12am.Thanks again for all good advices..all the best to all of you....

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  Reply # 305732 9-Mar-2010 17:32
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I had an intersting experience flying out of Sandakan.

I realised that the weighing machine where you put your bag had a bit of an overhang on it and if I could counter the weight of my luggae a bit I could make it seem like my bag was lighter than it looked

when I put my bag on, knowing it was over 25kgs, I put my foot under the overhang and pressed upwards with constant pressure. The scales said 17.5KG.

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  Reply # 305783 9-Mar-2010 20:48
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Also, check the allowance for each flight on the trip. Plenty of people have been caught out by transferring from a higher allowance flight to a lower allowance flight, and then getting all upset at the checkin counter when they are told they have to pay extra for that 35kg overstuffed bag.

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