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  Reply # 328670 10-May-2010 19:17
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SteveON: The reason I was looking for the most expensive cordless phone was because I would like a cordless that can work with my VFX line Johnsonville wide. Our office is pretty central so getting a wider reception would be nice.


If you want a decent phone just make sure you get a DECT and stay away from the customised Uniden rubbish as well as the 5.8GHz stuff. Virtually every DECT phone on the market (once again with the exception of the DECT handsets that Uniden do) also support GAP so can be used with any base station and more importantly with repeaters.

The Gigaset DECT handsets are good but the problem is people think a cordless phone is only worth $29 so don't want to pay good money for one.

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  Reply # 328672 10-May-2010 19:20
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richms: And decent power output. Why the hell is it so hard to find a cordless that will work all over a house and property, yet cells go for miles and miles to the cellsite and will usually work thru way more building than will kill a cordless.

Hell, my toy walkie talkies work furthur than my crap panasonic dect phone.


That's because there are power guidelines for DECT handsets, both on the TX power and the power limits imposed by some countries.

And you as well as anybody should know that cheap walkie talkie, probably on PRS, will have a lot greater range than a 250mW 1800MHz signal so your comparisions are meaningless.




So its just a regulatory problem that makes dect suck so much in general?


I didn't know DECT did suck. I think it's a fantastic standard!

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 328731 10-May-2010 23:15
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the philips I have is almost there range wise, but its got a crap user interface on it. Can get thru all the house and out to by the pool before it breaks up.

Panasonic seem to have problems making it from the house to the garage, certainly once the other side of the metal garage door they are worthless. wdect uniden works ok except for the flatmates wifi killing it totally.

Tried a 5.8GHz one because it claimed more range than the 2.4 one, and it barely makes it thru the whole house from the base being beside my bed.

I had a suggestion of a dect repeater, but it seems that you cant walk between the main base and the repeater coverage seamlessly which is pretty crap IMO.

Ideally I would want some ethernet connected bases that would show as SIP extensions on asterisk at an affordable price, but thats just a dream at this stage.




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  Reply # 328735 10-May-2010 23:59

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SteveON: The reason I was looking for the most expensive cordless phone was because I would like a cordless that can work with my VFX line Johnsonville wide. Our office is pretty central so getting a wider reception would be nice.


Pretty much any cordless phone you buy will have poor performance once you go a few meters away, out side the home/office.


I am aware of that, which is why I am looking for an "Imported" model without having to do the importing myself. Years ago there were 'importers' Who could get in phones with p2p ranges from 1-3Km. That is what I am looking for... But I assume they are now illegal to be sold in NZ. 

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  Reply # 328748 11-May-2010 07:39
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I had a suggestion of a dect repeater, but it seems that you cant walk between the main base and the repeater coverage seamlessly which is pretty crap IMO.



DECT repeaters all do seamless handovers between base station and repeater and repeater to repeater.

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  Reply # 328750 11-May-2010 07:44
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freitasm:
SteveON: The reason I was looking for the most expensive cordless phone was because I would like a cordless that can work with my VFX line Johnsonville wide. Our office is pretty central so getting a wider reception would be nice.


Pretty much any cordless phone you buy will have poor performance once you go a few meters away, out side the home/office.


I am aware of that, which is why I am looking for an "Imported" model without having to do the importing myself. Years ago there were 'importers' Who could get in phones with p2p ranges from 1-3Km. That is what I am looking for... But I assume they are now illegal to be sold in NZ. 


Virtually all these types of phones were always illegal.

I just don't know what all your problems are with phones. I've deployed DECT phones in a handful of supermarkets. These are are black holes with lots of concrete walls, insulation and huge amounts of electrical noise. If you buy a decent phone (such as the Gigasets) they deliver amazing results.

If you buy a $29 Uniden (or infact most Unidens) you'll get a piece of rubbish. The only phone they made that was close to being any good was the WDECT 1825.




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  Reply # 328984 11-May-2010 15:59
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Also with considerable range comes a larger range of people that may be able to listen in.

Read something that dect was well and truely cracked a while back, and with those no brand no standard long range cordlesses from china, who knows what if any encryption they have on them.




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Reply # 329060 11-May-2010 18:48
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This topic should get some sort of award for being the most off-topic of any on Geekzone.



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  Reply # 329109 11-May-2010 20:14

nate: This topic should get some sort of award for being the most off-topic of any on Geekzone.


I dinno, discussing the technologies of cordless phones is kinda geeky an't it? 



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  Reply # 329110 11-May-2010 20:16

ooooh yeah... I was looking at getting one of these...
http://www.longrange.co.nz/Durafone.html

But at the end of the day I could get one of these landed for NZD $800 inc costs. But I might as well signup to vodafone's local zone or something. Although it does not give me 5c calling to any landline pretty much world wide...

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  Reply # 329144 11-May-2010 21:34
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SteveON: ooooh yeah... I was looking at getting one of these...
http://www.longrange.co.nz/Durafone.html

But at the end of the day I could get one of these landed for NZD $800 inc costs. But I might as well signup to vodafone's local zone or something. Although it does not give me 5c calling to any landline pretty much world wide...


You could have a decent DECT phone and multiple repeaters if needed for less than that!



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  Reply # 329160 11-May-2010 22:05

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SteveON: ooooh yeah... I was looking at getting one of these...
http://www.longrange.co.nz/Durafone.html

But at the end of the day I could get one of these landed for NZD $800 inc costs. But I might as well signup to vodafone's local zone or something. Although it does not give me 5c calling to any landline pretty much world wide...


You could have a decent DECT phone and multiple repeaters if needed for less than that!


That is wat I am thinking, I have the ability to put a repeater on the other side of the building which faces the village... 

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  Reply # 329168 11-May-2010 22:20
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DECT repeaters all do seamless handovers between base station and repeater and repeater to repeater.


Didnt work when I tried one ages back, had to register the repeater as a seperate base station (which sucks since some of my handsets will only take one base) and then change base between the base and the repeater.

I really like the look of the new uniden one but the repeater being built into the charging dock is a bit stupid IMO since I want the charger in different places to where the repeater would do the best work. Plus the logic in getting a new analog PSTN based phone that costs that much is a bit far fetched these days with voip hopefully going to make more inroads with the change to FTTH etc.




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  Reply # 329207 12-May-2010 07:39
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DECT repeaters all do seamless handovers between base station and repeater and repeater to repeater.


Didnt work when I tried one ages back, had to register the repeater as a seperate base station (which sucks since some of my handsets will only take one base) and then change base between the base and the repeater.

I really like the look of the new uniden one but the repeater being built into the charging dock is a bit stupid IMO since I want the charger in different places to where the repeater would do the best work. Plus the logic in getting a new analog PSTN based phone that costs that much is a bit far fetched these days with voip hopefully going to make more inroads with the change to FTTH etc.


It's obvious the phone wasn't fully repeater compatable - virtually all GAP compliant phones are but a handful won't.

Any "decent" DECT phone does not include the charging cradle with the base station, it is really only the cheap low end stuff that is like this, once again you get what you pay for.

Analog DECT phones are by no means obsolete since DECT is only an air interface. You can easily mix and match Gigaset analogue phones with the IP DECT base stations but do't get access to some of the cool features. As we move to FTTH expect to see a lot more RGW's hitting the market with built in DECT base stations, we are seeing a lot already and I've heard of a few such products in the wind from another major manufacturer.

Somebody who has one of these deployed at their home either as part of a FTTH install or EUBA POTS replacement can just pair their existing DECT GAP compliant phone rather than needing an FXO adapter in the RGW.


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