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#336433 31-May-2010 02:40

Mooseboy: The fact that they end it with "Oh, they're dead" really ruined it for me. Maybe its just because I don't believe in the afterlife or anything, but I found their time at the Dharma initiative was much more explantory, and everything after that kind of went down hill. The temple and all the other spiritual stuff? Meh, give me more sci-fi.

I don't think it was so much "Oh, they're dead" as "Oh, they eventually died" which goes without saying really.

I didn't mind it. It was always going to be a bit disappointing, but it was OK.

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#336477 31-May-2010 09:31

After watching the final on Saturday I'm feeling really LOST! So many questions... I guess they'll all be answered in the movie when it comes out.

And where did the children go? Oh the poor children! And the others? Surely they were all in the same boat as those who "survived" the Oceanic flight? Or were they departing from a different church at a different time? Arhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

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#336478 31-May-2010 09:31

cgrew: I personally thought Lost lived up to it's name lol I watched the first two seasons but after that I got abit.. LOST haha

Hey slightly off-topic - way back in 2006 did anyone watch the series Invasion? That was relly good - where did it go??

Invasion was cancelled after only the 1 series. Shame really as we were waiting to see more of it too!

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#336491 31-May-2010 10:06

Watched it yesterday and my take is they were in pergatory all that time even though the makers have always denied it.

 The purgatory theory was debunked by J.J. Abrams in a Zap2it interview published in March 14, 2005, "though he claimed to like the idea."
 The theory was again expressly debunked by executive producer Damon Lindelof in a New York Times interview published on May 25, 2006. Noting the fact that the finale of Season 2 shows the outside world in the present (as opposed to a flashback) for the first time, Lindelof added: "People who believe that they're in purgatory or that they're subjects of an experiment are going to start reassessing those theories based on the fact that we are literally showing you the outside world."
 This theory was rejected again by Damon Lindelof on the October 6, 2006 podcast.
 Following the airing of "D.O.C." and Naomi's revelation that the wreckage of Oceanic Flight 815 was allegedly found and there were no survivors, the "purgatory" theory was again debunked twice; first by Damon Lindelof in an interview with E! Online [1], stating that "If we did such a thing after repeatedly stating otherwise, we'd be tarred and feathered!"; and second, by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse in the April 30, 2007 podcast, insisting out that "we were not lying, it's not purgatory" and listing several possible other explanations for Naomi's revelation.
 Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse again debunked this theory in a Lost recap special when they added that the Losties are not dead and "do exist somewhere in the space time continuum."

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#336493 31-May-2010 10:08

Having watched every episode of the 6 seasons (yes sad I know) I was feeling pretty good watching the final episode, until the final half hour (ads inclusive). It appeared to be rushed script writing of the 'lets wrap this up quickly' variety that I last saw in the 'termination' (pun intended) of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles".

Being 'Geeky' I couldn't get past details involved in the final escape by air. Like repairing 3000psi hydraulic lines with duct tape to make an aircraft flyable. Starting a modern turbofan engine with a battery (nope, that's what the APU is for), reversing said aircraft, on sand, using only thrust reversers and then getting airborne in less distance than it took to crashland. It would have made more sense if the 737 clone they used to escape had rolled up into a fireball trying to get airborne, at least I would have known they were dead, although it just occurred to me that with a lump of wood repairing the copilot's window they would have had to fly unpressurised (at low altitude) and would have run out of fuel, crashing into the Pacific (ala Amelia Earhart) anyhow. Perhaps I should reconcile it with the fact that the whole saga started with an airliner breaking up at cruising altitude and people surviving in the first place. All of that as well as the temporal warp that allowed Sawyer and Kate to swim/sail/swim to an island a number of miles away in less than an hour, just lazy scriptwriting.

I believe those of us that had persevered through all the seasons, including the crappiest ones during the writer's strike deserved a more coherent ending.
I was happy about the storyline bookending itself by the final shot being Jack closing his eyes to match the start of the first episode though.
So in the end (to answer the OPs original question) Lost was all about starting well, losing your way, stringing viewers along with the promise of revelations, partially redeeming itself and then ending with a feel good whimper.

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#336533 31-May-2010 12:04

Bit of a rant above. Just rewatched the final half hour and apart from the technical aspects it wasn't as bad as I first thought. But I needed to read some blogs and then rewatch it to fully 'get it'. That is why it wasn't great scriptwriting IMO.
Can't help but feel that it is 4840 minutes of my life I'll never get back (121 episodes x 40 minutes).

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#336537 31-May-2010 12:09

I gave up after Season 1, I'm a scifi freak but even I couldnt get into Lost lol

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#336639 31-May-2010 15:45

Like Dingbatt - I feel I have been somewhat robbed of 6 years of viewing time by the writers of Lost.

Saturday's finale was doing fine, unti lthe part where it stopped making sense.

So many things weren't answered. So many things weren't explained.

So many people were missing. Where the hell were Michael and Walt? huh?

I just didn't get it. All they did was wrap up the last series. Not the whole entire series (if that makes sense). The "alternate reality" turned out to be purgatory. OK. I'm fine with that. But what's the Island? What's with the alien runes? What's with the smoke monster? What's with Jacob living for 1000's of years? And growing older until he got to mid-30's?

Nope...not happy.

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#336644 31-May-2010 15:52

Handsomedan: Like Dingbatt - I feel I have been somewhat robbed of 6 years of viewing time by the writers of Lost.

Saturday's finale was doing fine, unti lthe part where it stopped making sense.

So many things weren't answered. So many things weren't explained.

So many people were missing. Where the hell were Michael and Walt? huh?

I just didn't get it. All they did was wrap up the last series. Not the whole entire series (if that makes sense). The "alternate reality" turned out to be purgatory. OK. I'm fine with that. But what's the Island? What's with the alien runes? What's with the smoke monster? What's with Jacob living for 1000's of years? And growing older until he got to mid-30's?

Nope...not happy.

Michael's situation was resolved a few episodes ago. He's stuck on the island as a ghost. Walt is another story altogether, after making him out to be such a huge deal in the early seasons he basically disappeared as he grew older in reality :)

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#336651 31-May-2010 16:05

Haha lost much Handsomedan?

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#336652 31-May-2010 16:05

Handsomedan: Like Dingbatt - I feel I have been somewhat robbed of 6 years of viewing time by the writers of Lost.

Saturday's finale was doing fine, unti lthe part where it stopped making sense.

So many things weren't answered. So many things weren't explained.

So many people were missing. Where the hell were Michael and Walt? huh?

I just didn't get it. All they did was wrap up the last series. Not the whole entire series (if that makes sense). The "alternate reality" turned out to be purgatory. OK. I'm fine with that. But what's the Island? What's with the alien runes? What's with the smoke monster? What's with Jacob living for 1000's of years? And growing older until he got to mid-30's?

Nope...not happy.

I can answer one of those.

Jacob stopped aging when his mother "passed the flame" to him - she gave him the drink from the stream and responsibility for the island passed to him at that point - and he stopped aging. (Just as we saw with Jacob to Jack and Jack to Hurley).

But I agree - so many loose ends still just dangling. We'll need to wait for the movie to get the rest of it.

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#336671 31-May-2010 16:25

Handsomedan: I just didn't get it. All they did was wrap up the last series. Not the whole entire series (if that makes sense). The "alternate reality" turned out to be purgatory. OK. I'm fine with that. But what's the Island? What's with the alien runes? What's with the smoke monster? What's with Jacob living for 1000's of years? And growing older until he got to mid-30's?

Like Christian said, everything was real. So the Island is just want it seemed to be and was explained to be by Jacob, the plug on the bottle of wine.

Alien runes? You mean the egyptian-type stuff? The island is old and lots of people have been there before. They're the same ones that built the temple, statue, all that stuff. Maybe that was even before Jacob's "mother" was on the island. True, they didn't spell out exactly where they all came from but I don't know how important that really is.

Same with the smoke monster. Why and how the smoke monster? Just part of the Island's "magic" I guess. Ditto for Jacob. Seems obvious that the protector needs immortality or near enough to do his job, it onyl kicked in once he was older because that's when his "mother" transferred her power.

Or something like that maybe...

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#336673 31-May-2010 16:28

Can nobody answer my gripes around the alien runes, the smoke monster (a.k.a. Lock, a.k.a. The Devil, a.k.a. Jacob's bro), Walt, Analucia, Rousseau, Alex etc...

And what was Widmore's deal?

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