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  Reply # 363399 5-Aug-2010 07:05
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kiwitrc: Slight change to topic sorry, but we have a fixed IP at work and at least 6 different people who access Trademe from work, if someone cocks up can we all get burnt?

I'd say this is unlikely. I'm sure they have checks in for this sort of thing. Otherwise hundreds of places that force their staff through a proxy or are behind a NAT IP would be stuffed.


Not entirely true, we had one account disabled as two people in the same house had the same domain name for their email address. But they were different, bob@example.com and tim@example.com.
Trademe used that as their reason to disable, and would not reinstate, so we lost an account. Now the other account has to be shared, as we do not want to risk it again.

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  Reply # 363409 5-Aug-2010 07:43
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kiwitrc: Slight change to topic sorry, but we have a fixed IP at work and at least 6 different people who access Trademe from work, if someone cocks up can we all get burnt?

I'd say this is unlikely. I'm sure they have checks in for this sort of thing. Otherwise hundreds of places that force their staff through a proxy or are behind a NAT IP would be stuffed.


Not entirely true, we had one account disabled as two people in the same house had the same domain name for their email address. But they were different, bob@example.com and tim@example.com.
Trademe used that as their reason to disable, and would not reinstate, so we lost an account. Now the other account has to be shared, as we do not want to risk it again.


I had this happen to me also, my wife and I had an account each, and they banned both of them, took me about two days to prove to them that they were seperate accounts, I even had to email them a copy of each of our drivers licences.

Even then they said they would only reinstate one of the accounts, which is a big pain because my wifes watchlist is crazy huge, and I can t be bothered wading through all her crap!

Was a big big issue to get it fixed though




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  Reply # 363428 5-Aug-2010 08:21
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Apologies for keeping the off topic slide going - but this 'same IP / diff account' issue is not that hard.

When I set-up an account for myself (me & the wife were sharing, but that's a no-no in T&M T&C's) we simply let them know (email) and put each other on our blacklists (and told T&M that as well)

No issue - No problem.

Once I got my head around that this was their site and not mine it made more sense.

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  Reply # 363430 5-Aug-2010 08:24
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rscole86:
muppet:
kiwitrc: Slight change to topic sorry, but we have a fixed IP at work and at least 6 different people who access Trademe from work, if someone cocks up can we all get burnt?

I'd say this is unlikely. I'm sure they have checks in for this sort of thing. Otherwise hundreds of places that force their staff through a proxy or are behind a NAT IP would be stuffed.


Not entirely true, we had one account disabled as two people in the same house had the same domain name for their email address. But they were different, bob@example.com and tim@example.com.
Trademe used that as their reason to disable, and would not reinstate, so we lost an account. Now the other account has to be shared, as we do not want to risk it again.


Of course. I was talking only about work environments (as kiwitrc was talking about)

I have no doubt they're a lot more strict when they see multiple connections coming from the dynamic IP pools of home ADSL connections.




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  Reply # 363481 5-Aug-2010 09:26
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one of our accounts got banned without warning, because me and my wife each had an account. apparently not allowed 2 accounts from one address. but if they were so harsh it probably means they think you're using both accounts to bid on each other's auctions to increase the price.

dont be so harsh on the OP! maybe he's got something to hide, maybe he doesnt. no we can't help him. yes it's a waste of forum time/space. good luck though

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  Reply # 363504 5-Aug-2010 10:08
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joker97: one of our accounts got banned without warning, because me and my wife each had an account. apparently not allowed 2 accounts from one address.


Wife and I are the same, account each, both registered to same address, never had any issues.




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  Reply # 363511 5-Aug-2010 10:13
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joker97: one of our accounts got banned without warning, because me and my wife each had an account. apparently not allowed 2 accounts from one address. but if they were so harsh it probably means they think you're using both accounts to bid on each other's auctions to increase the price.

dont be so harsh on the OP! maybe he's got something to hide, maybe he doesnt. no we can't help him. yes it's a waste of forum time/space. good luck though


My wife and I both have separate accounts, and have done for many years. We are both address verified (i.e. they know we both live at the same address), and we both login in nearly everyday, from the same IP address.

We have never been banned or warned. If you have been banned or warned, you have done something to warrant it.

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  Reply # 363514 5-Aug-2010 10:17
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My wife and I both have separate accounts, and have done for many years. We are both address verified (i.e. they know we both live at the same address), and we both login in nearly everyday, from the same IP address.



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  Reply # 363574 5-Aug-2010 12:00
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I'd hazard a guess that if husband accidentally posts from wife's account or vice versa in the message boards that would be the trigger for getting one of them disabled.

I don't think TradeMe have much in the way of automated detection of this so unless you come to light by a board posting or shill bidding they don't know or care.  

I've caught a few shill bidders over the years, you'd think if anything was easy to detect that would be, the people that do it probably are not bright enough to know about IP addresses.




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  Reply # 363585 5-Aug-2010 12:13
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Does anyone have both a business and a personal account?

It's apparently allowed at Trademes discretion 

 Accurate Information: You warrant that you have provided complete, accurate and current personal information when registering as a member. You must maintain and update your personal information held by Trade Me to ensure it is kept current at all times. Trade Me may phone or mail you to verify these details. You must not register as a member under multiple identities or personas (whether false or not). However, at Trade Me's discretion, you may create a business membership in addition to your personal membership. 




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  Reply # 363637 5-Aug-2010 13:33
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raydenl: My wife and I both have separate accounts, and have done for many years. We are both address verified (i.e. they know we both live at the same address), and we both login in nearly everyday, from the same IP address.

We have never been banned or warned. If you have been banned or warned, you have done something to warrant it.


our 2nd account was banned about 30mins after we created it and listed baby clothing. 1st account had been active for about 5 years. *shrug shoulders

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  Reply # 363648 5-Aug-2010 13:58
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vinnieg: Does anyone have both a business and a personal account?

It's apparently allowed at Trademes discretion?


I asked once. They said one needs to be GST registered to have a TM business account, which is lame as I have a business and wanted to open an additional account to keep things seperate.

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  Reply # 363659 5-Aug-2010 14:18
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vinnieg: Does anyone have both a business and a personal account?

It's apparently allowed at Trademes discretion?


I asked once. They said one needs to be GST registered to have a TM business account, which is lame as I have a business and wanted to open an additional account to keep things seperate.


But if you selling things for your business, Surely you would want to do the right thing and have it GST registered. Or do they assume it is a 'trade-me only' business? 

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  Reply # 363666 5-Aug-2010 14:26
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vinnieg: Does anyone have both a business and a personal account?

It's apparently allowed at Trademes discretion?


I asked once. They said one needs to be GST registered to have a TM business account, which is lame as I have a business and wanted to open an additional account to keep things seperate.


But if you selling things for your business, Surely you would want to do the right thing and have it GST registered. Or do they assume it is a 'trade-me only' business? 


The problem is that not all businesses need to be GST registered.  You only need GST registration if you are conducting a taxable activity and the value of your supplies is over $60,000 for the year.

Even a "Trade me only" business needs to register for GST if supplies will be over $60,000.

It sounds like a rule that some bureaucrat came up with to avoid the need to think.

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  Reply # 363668 5-Aug-2010 14:29
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Aah, good to know, thanks :)

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