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# 457207 10-Apr-2011 12:17

bnapi: Who maintains the free to air tv3 reception in christchurch? Kordia? Who should we contact to get this issue fixed? Or has the problem fixed itself? DonGould?

Reading the thread (last response) will tell you it's fixed.

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# 457208 10-Apr-2011 12:18

It seems the issue is the expectation that there will never be any faults, at any time

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# 457222 10-Apr-2011 13:35

michaelmurfy:
bnapi: Who maintains the free to air tv3 reception in christchurch? Kordia? Who should we contact to get this issue fixed? Or has the problem fixed itself? DonGould?

Reading the thread (last response) will tell you it's fixed.

it may be fixed for you but it may not be fixed for DonGould.

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# 457260 10-Apr-2011 17:31

old3eyes:
DonGould: Get what you pay for I guess.

So what are suggesting they use.. Sky??

No. Wasn't making a suggestion at all.

The comment really was more that I accept that I don't pay anything for TV reception, so really I have no right to complain at all.

If I'm not happy with it then yes, I could go pay TelstraClear of Sky for a commerical service.

Or I could head down to the DVD store and rent something... or I could pick a local ISP with a VOD service.

But complain about FTA?

I know that content creation is funded from my taxes, but is broadcast these days? I confess, I don't even know.

Now the advertisers, they might have another thing to say about it, and I guess that's within their rights.

Personally it's just another nail in the FTA coffin from my POV. I've been considering what I'm going to do when the analogue system finally goes off line.... but with more and more of the content I'm interested in turning up ad free and legal on the internet...

As for someone's comment about fault free.... sure, I agree, but all 4 major stations off line at the same time on a Saturday night for hours?

Media recently reported that BCL is running at a loss. I'm wondering if it's suffering from over stretching in to digital tv, internet and old analogue systems all at the same time?

Friday saw a broadcast storm on a BCL core that took out ISPs for hours. Again, 'it happens'.

Comment I got on Friday is that 'we should just sue the buggers so they get the message'.

I've advocated for over a decade that suing technology companies like ISPs is counter productive.

However I often question the need for more and better industry regulation.

As many will know, I also step up and demand to know exactly what has gone wrong and why.

I want to understand and have that information in the public space because it them makes it much easier to explain to others and to make the best choices (in the case of ISPs and business "choose two independent layer 1 providers!")

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# 457265 10-Apr-2011 17:57

was working fine in Auckland dvb-t freeview hd

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# 457630 11-Apr-2011 21:25

DonGould:
old3eyes:
DonGould: Get what you pay for I guess.

So what are suggesting they use.. Sky??

No. Wasn't making a suggestion at all.

The comment really was more that I accept that I don't pay anything for TV reception, so really I have no right to complain at all.

If I'm not happy with it then yes, I could go pay TelstraClear of Sky for a commerical service.

Or I could head down to the DVD store and rent something... or I could pick a local ISP with a VOD service.

But complain about FTA?

I know that content creation is funded from my taxes, but is broadcast these days? I confess, I don't even know.

Now the advertisers, they might have another thing to say about it, and I guess that's within their rights.

Personally it's just another nail in the FTA coffin from my POV. I've been considering what I'm going to do when the analogue system finally goes off line.... but with more and more of the content I'm interested in turning up ad free and legal on the internet...

As for someone's comment about fault free.... sure, I agree, but all 4 major stations off line at the same time on a Saturday night for hours?

Media recently reported that BCL is running at a loss. I'm wondering if it's suffering from over stretching in to digital tv, internet and old analogue systems all at the same time?

Friday saw a broadcast storm on a BCL core that took out ISPs for hours. Again, 'it happens'.

Comment I got on Friday is that 'we should just sue the buggers so they get the message'.

I've advocated for over a decade that suing technology companies like ISPs is counter productive.

However I often question the need for more and better industry regulation.

As many will know, I also step up and demand to know exactly what has gone wrong and why.

I want to understand and have that information in the public space because it them makes it much easier to explain to others and to make the best choices (in the case of ISPs and business "choose two independent layer 1 providers!")

So is your tv3 problem fixed now Don?

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# 457634 11-Apr-2011 21:28

bnapi: So is your tv3 problem fixed now Don?

Yes thanks, and the other 3 channels that were gone as well.

Still no idea what knocked it all out. Didn't notice anything in the news. But as I said... you get what you pay for.

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# 457736 12-Apr-2011 10:45

DonGould:
bnapi: So is your tv3 problem fixed now Don?

Yes thanks, and the other 3 channels that were gone as well.

Still no idea what knocked it all out. Didn't notice anything in the news. But as I said... you get what you pay for.

Kordia are still looking into the cause of the problem, but it looks like a microwave link fade problem that may have been worsened by an equipment failure at a linking site north of Christchurch.

The broadcasters contract Kordia to deliver the signal, and if outages are long there are financial penalties for Kordia. This is what keeps them sharp... after all, they make a lot of money from the broadcasters to deliver the service.

These sort of outages are quite rare. When you think about how reliable most electronics is, and the large number of individual peices of equipment involved from the TV station to your local transmitter, it's really amazing that it's as reliable as it is.

FTA TV broadcasting is still a really profitable model. How many entertainment mediums can guarantee the numbers and instant delivery to match TV? Viewers have a one-off cost for a receiver and then have many years of free entertainment and news on a system that they own. What's not attractive about that?

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# 457757 12-Apr-2011 11:18

Thanks for the update HD, I would have thought that the chch feed would be fibre fed these days, with two different fibre providers given the commerical value of TV.

While Kordia do make money from broadcasters, last thing I read was that they were making an over all loss at present?

I agree these sorts of outages are very very rare. In fact in 37 years of colour TV in my life, I can't recall ever seeing a 2 hour outage on a single channel, let alone 4.

Given the number of bits of gear involved in getting an email to Auckland from Christchurch is amazes me that Skype works, but it does.

In my house Skype is important to us, so we have three different layer 1 providers, hence even with earthquakes we don't have outages.

I agree that FTA TV is still a really profitable model and the comments you made are right on the mark for many many many homes, not mine, but many.

I get news from web sites now. I watch video daily and it all happens in my time. Last week someone commented about something on Campbell Live that I was interested in so I set my mind to catching it on FTA - I ended up watching it on line.

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=81227&page_no=3#457749

I concur with these people about programming. More often than not, the shows I enjoy are at times that don't work for me. The comedy series I like is all out of sync, the drama's I like are not played at times that work for me. Yes, these are my problems, not someone else. But how I take ownership of those problems might be of issue to others.

I'm not a fan of the whole torrent thing. But given that I got TV tuner cards just included with my new PC, I've got busy and put a real antenna on the roof!

But that's not good news for advertisers because I now just record all the content and skip all their content. Nothing new in this space at all though. PVRs have been doing this for a while.

As for guaranteed views and instant delivery. I don't want instant and I'm switching off. If you want to guarantee to find me then put your content on the Press web site....

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