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  Reply # 484579 22-Jun-2011 19:17
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Beccara: An[d] what a cost it is, A copy protection scheme that the studio's would accept is upwards of $750k NZ + any inevitable modifications needed would require auditing on the system. 

That is not a small amount of money, but it is still comparable to a medium house in a good suburb, and still cheap for a money printing machine. The real barriers are in the licensing terms available, and confidence in the provision of future infrastructure.

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  Reply # 484774 23-Jun-2011 07:31
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lokhor: I don't have a bluray player and don't want to buy in to the format. I think physical discs are a relic of the past, we no longer require them so why use them?

I hear where you are coming from and agree that's where we are going, but I don't think we are there yet.
Bluray file size for a movie is often in the 30Gb region.  If you are going to stream this then obviously something (quality) has got to give.  Bluray offers uncompressed HD audio and video quality which personally I'm not about to give up.

I think the quality of H264 is comparable to that of Bluray at 1/3 the size. I'd be happy to even have 720p streamed though.  

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  Reply # 484896 23-Jun-2011 11:21
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It seems we are all agreed that we are poorly served by for a VOD service. 

It also seems some of the reasons for this is that we are:

  • also poorly served for broadband,

  • a small market (in global terms) nobody is busting a gut to serve,

  • the number of hoops to jump through to satisfy the movie / content industry is prohibitively expensive or at worst off-putting. 

Please include any things you think I missed

I think there is an interesting comparison to be made with TradeMe. NZ is one of the only places where Ebay does not dominate. I think this is because Sam Morgan capitalised on the second reason we are poorly served 'small market (in global terms)...' overcame what I am sure were obstacles similar to the other points and became a millionaire. 

Given we are supposed to be getting a national broadband network, work starting any day now, and the content industry is loosing money hand over fist with it's current business model. Does anybody think the next 'Sam Morgan' will be somebody who brings a decent VOD service to NZ? If not, why not?

If I'm right any ideas of how to get in on the ground floor?



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  Reply # 484905 23-Jun-2011 11:40
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personally i have used

1. itunes, good but gets pricey and can only rent the 720p on a apple tv, and you cant buy the 720p either, only rent. also if you accidentally delete a movie, you have to buy it again you cant just download another copy for free.
2. netflix via vpn, really good, speeds have been fine for me, lots of movies, but new releases arent always there.
3. vudu via vpn, good service, you can rent/buy movies and stream them to your player (i used boxee) so if you buy a movie you dont download it, but you can stream it whenever you like
4. hulu via vpn, they have a few movies and their player is quite nice. free but ads.

i would use itunes or zune more if they were integrated into windows media center, netflix is nice because it is, and hulu desktop can easily be launched from it (well on a PC).

personally im not too worried about the bandwidth, dont mind paying for that, just prefer a service available in NZ with a monthly subscription that you could stream movies/tv shows to your player (netflix for nz). is going international apparently...

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  Reply # 484946 23-Jun-2011 12:30
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reven:  via vpn...
If you don't mind saying, what vpn service do you use and what does it cost etc?

I'm going to have a serious look at this for BBC iplayer connection....

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