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  Reply # 484764 23-Jun-2011 06:36
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+1 for sketchup too, but I have only used it for 3d.  When we had house alterations I used it for designing a new kitchen.  Its amazing for being able to rotate a room through any axis, and zoom in and out.

Why not design the wardrobe in 2D then project to 3D?  Could give you a better idea of the finished job.



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  Reply # 484786 23-Jun-2011 08:20
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3D sounds like it'd take longer. Plus it looks more difficult to draw precisely, ie make this piece of wood 104mm long inside the 4100mm design.




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  Reply # 484793 23-Jun-2011 08:41
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Sorry mate, if I was in Wells I'd bring the thermal camera around for you and whip up your kitchen CAD drawing whilst I was there too!

Never used Sketchup but heard very good things about it. It comes highly recommended here so give it a go. Heck if you do the 2D bit and are happy then hey, you might be able to put some depths on it and get a 3D model out fairly easily.

That's one whole D more and sometimes that's impressive.



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  Reply # 484807 23-Jun-2011 09:21
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I don't want to confuse a builder with a 3D model! I want a plan they can work off, basically a drawing of how I want it to look when i'm standing in the room, with measurements.

While Sketchup looks good, i'm not sure it's the right tool.

If you make it to Wellington with that thermal camera i'll buy you a bottle of anything you like!




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  Reply # 484811 23-Jun-2011 09:27
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Try draftsight its just like AutoCAD but free, its made by there compeditors, you should just be able to draw a series of rectangles with dimensions nice and simple.

http://www.3ds.com/products/draftsight/free-cad-software/



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  Reply # 484829 23-Jun-2011 09:45
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Thanks Jimmy :) I tried Solidedge and once I work through the tutorial I might understand what's going on there, but i'll try Draftsight too.

I really do just want to be able to define a boundry, with measurements, then draw shapes that have measurements inside it.




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  Reply # 484858 23-Jun-2011 10:18
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Ha all this mucking around, you'd be quicker to take photo of the cabinets you want, a demo in a show room or a pamphlet etc and the space you want to install it in and use photoshop to paste it on top!

Good luck, one of the software programes will suit I'm sure.

Plan B is you sketch it and we'll CAD it for you!



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  Reply # 484861 23-Jun-2011 10:21
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Ha, could be if what I wanted existed. It's not that complex, just two wardrobes, three cupboards, one set of custom made drawers.

I might just use a pencil, paper, and ruler. It'd take me less time to do it that way than it would to even do the CAD tutorial let alone do the design! The only downside is rework means using an eraser or redoing it.




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  Reply # 484870 23-Jun-2011 10:32
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What about Visio, didn't that have some basic stuff in it too?

You could always draw rectangles etc and dimension them in text, meaning it didn't technically matter how long the line was.



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  Reply # 484873 23-Jun-2011 10:38
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I don't have Visio, and I don't like installing big microsoft trial packages that leave crud around if I uninstall them later. Drawing to scale means I make sure my plan is something realistic the builder can build too! :)




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  Reply # 484956 23-Jun-2011 12:45
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Jaxson: What about Visio, didn't that have some basic stuff in it too?

You could always draw rectangles etc and dimension them in text, meaning it didn't technically matter how long the line was.

I've used Visio for this kind of thing before and it was great, but understand if you don't want to.

Just use Paint!

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  Reply # 485022 23-Jun-2011 13:52
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bazzer: Just use Paint!

Done.

Bill is in the mail, roughly 4hrs labour.




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  Reply # 485025 23-Jun-2011 13:55
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Hahaha, nice!




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  Reply # 485060 23-Jun-2011 15:16
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A bit late [!], but for anyone else who ends up here:

You couild also try Autodesk's free Audodesk 123D product, apparently it's a cut down CAD package based on their 'Inventor' product line. I dont know much else about it sorry, but could be worth a look, as they are pretty big players in the CAD field!

http://www.123dapp.com/



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  Reply # 485063 23-Jun-2011 15:20
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Thanks for the idea, it's also 3D which just adds complexity. I'm pretty set on pen and paper now!




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