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  #505873 13-Aug-2011 06:23
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dontpanic42: OK, so there is a product I want to order from Australia that has a Lithium-Ion battery
however the online retailer can't air freight it to NZ due to safety restrictions with Lithium batteries and air freight. I understand that.

However, what are the actual regulations surrounding this issue?

Lithium-ion battery products when packed in bulk (not sure what "bulk" quantity is) have to go on freighter aircraft, and can't be carried on commercial aircraft as freight. They have to be declared and located in an accessible location, etc. The UPS 6 flight disaster in Dubai is rumored to have been caused by undeclared batteries in the cargo.

dontpanic42: Surely heaps of people pack their laptops into their check-in baggage which ends up in the luggage hold. And everyone has their phone on them while in the cabin, so I'm just a bit confused about these regulations.

I hope that people don't pack their laptops into their check-in baggage! The airlines all contract out of liability for valuables carried in the hold, so it's a good way for them to be stolen or broken - and travel insurance usually won't cover you in this situation either.

While you can carry batteries in cabin, many airlines place restrictions on charging the devices onboard and in some cases have asked for devices with LiOn batteries to have the battery removed; particularly during the spate of Dell etc battery, uh, combustion.

dontpanic42: Don't get me wrong, I'm all for making flying as safe as possibly, but just curious about the seemingly ambiguous nature of this rule.

Actually, come to think of it, when I ordered my Kindle (which has a Lithium-Polymer battery), it got here pretty quickly which means it would've had to have been air freighted.

I'm sure there are valid reasons, just curious to know if anyone knows the exact details

If I had to bet, it's because their usual shipping service won't accept LiOn batteries, and they don't want the hassle of dealing with one which does for a small volume of orders. It's likely to be more expensive and require filling out declarations...


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  #623845 11-May-2012 23:31
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From Engadget - May 11th 2012:

USPS goes postal on lithium ion batteries, refuses to ship smartphones overseas

The USPS has announced that it'll refuse to ship any gear containing lithium ion batteries overseas. The postal service believes combusting power packs have caused two fatal cargo plane crashes since 2006 -- hence the ban, which takes effect from May 16th. Anyone wishing to ship the latest tech to those living or serving overseas will have to use another shipping company -- although the ban might be relaxed in 2013, once safety testing has been carried out.

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  #919177 21-Oct-2013 13:33
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A friend just had his mobile phone delivery from China returned due to it containing a battery.  I wonder where in the delivery chain it got rejected?

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Dear Pandawill customer ,
Thank you very much for your order on online store. Really so sorry for long time waiting for your order.As your First package contains battery,so the parcel has send back to us.

Today we write to you,we will resend the parcel by DHL global mail(it's the registered mail,not the Express mail)for free. If you agree,we will resend the parcel as soon as possible.Once the parcel ships will send the tracking number by email.

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  #919208 21-Oct-2013 14:13
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jonb: A friend just had his mobile phone delivery from China returned due to it containing a battery.  I wonder where in the delivery chain it got rejected?

I read on that the Post Office in Hong Kong had become very strict about lithium batteries.  I think he also said Mainland China were strictly following the rules too.

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  #919225 21-Oct-2013 14:49
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Lthium batteries can be transported by air but need to comply with the new restrictions on weight and packaging, see here and also for more detail here.

I would has at a guess that some places have over reacted or just said no but if you follow the regulations you should be fine.

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