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  Reply # 513975 30-Aug-2011 15:40
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gingeralenz: So guess you can see where they are coming from then, it being a public dance performance using an artists song. Playing music at work might even be infringing copyright since technically only one person owns it.


If any copyright law is THAT stupid it deserves to be actively and publicly subverted at every opportunity.  

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  Reply # 513979 30-Aug-2011 15:44
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Fair Use, without a doubt. Youtube need to pull their head in.




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  Reply # 513983 30-Aug-2011 15:56
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JimmyLizar: Fair Use, without a doubt. Youtube need to pull their head in.


I pressume Youtube is operating on US laws, not NZs, and at the end of the day it is their website, so they can control what people put on it. Perhaps the OP could just buy some hosting, and host the video on their own website to get around it. Or use another video sharing service.

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  Reply # 513992 30-Aug-2011 16:35
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gingeralenz:  Playing music at work might even be infringing copyright since technically only one person owns it.

I think you'll find you don't 'own' it, you merely own a right to listen to it. The ownership lies with the creator and thus the copyright issue. 



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  Reply # 514109 30-Aug-2011 21:54
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mattwnz:
JimmyLizar: Fair Use, without a doubt. Youtube need to pull their head in.


I pressume Youtube is operating on US laws, not NZs, and at the end of the day it is their website, so they can control what people put on it. Perhaps the OP could just buy some hosting, and host the video on their own website to get around it. Or use another video sharing service.


I do use other web sites and the video is unmolested there.

The point here is that legal grounds were given for the notice....and they have a dispute process.

I'm using it.

I'll let you know how it turns out. 




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  Reply # 514118 30-Aug-2011 22:04
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With the DMCA (US Law)

it goes a little like this. (as I've DCMAed some one in the states from NZ! before) and it worked like this when I did it.

I made a Copyright Complaint of someone copying my work.
The Company has to remove access to the content straight away where the content is.
If Person who puts up content doesn't thinks the complaint is right they have to reply within y days
If person who claims copyright still thinks they are right they _have_ to take you to court within z days
If they don't take you to a US court then content has to be returned to be accessible.

I went thru the whole thing expect the court case as it was "just too hard" to go thru to a US court case part and the copyrighted content was returned to the infringing website.


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  Reply # 515209 1-Sep-2011 17:29
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Don't even bother arguing with youtube, there are incidents where people actually get written permission from artists to use songs, and send that to youtube, and they  just get ignored.

They pretty much operate on if something gets flagged by WMG, Viacom etc etc, it gets taken down or muted, no ifs or buts.

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mattwnz:
JimmyLizar: Fair Use, without a doubt. Youtube need to pull their head in.


I pressume Youtube is operating on US laws, not NZs, and at the end of the day it is their website, so they can control what people put on it. Perhaps the OP could just buy some hosting, and host the video on their own website to get around it. Or use another video sharing service.


I do use other web sites and the video is unmolested there.

The point here is that legal grounds were given for the notice....and they have a dispute process.

I'm using it.

I'll let you know how it turns out.?


Absolutely, but I think you could be wasting your time. Dealing with a US company who owns the website, and operates under different laws from NZ, they can basically do what they want without explanation as it is their site and a free service. I use vimeo instead.



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  Reply # 515226 1-Sep-2011 17:48
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mattwnz: 
Absolutely, but I think you could be wasting your time. Dealing with a US company who owns the website, and operates under different laws from NZ, they can basically do what they want without explanation as it is their site and a free service. I use vimeo instead.


Vimeo look pretty good. DailyMotion are pretty good, too.

Viddler is out there....and a few others. I lose track of all the passwords! :-)   




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