For all of you, conspiracy theorist and believers (UFO, Haarp, New World Order)

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#549327 24-Nov-2011 12:05

Good ol' Gunderson. I've often wondered if he was playing with a full deck.

He was an advocate of sham psychic Sylvia Browne, saying she's the best in the country (instead she's solved ZERO of the crimes she claimed she helped in, and has hurt countless people in the process.)

He was also behind the satanic ritual abuse hysteria in the 80s, which resulted in a big fat waste of money.
He's been known to waffle on about everything from 9/11 "truth", psychics, aliens stealing children, and chemtrails. Looking this guy up is like playing woo-woo bingo! The guy who told Geraldo that 50,000 Americans are sacrificed by Satanists every year. RIP you crazy old codger.

Would love to see his rock-solid, smoking gun evidence, not anecdotes.

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#549407 24-Nov-2011 13:41

BurningBeard:

...Would love to see his rock-solid, smoking gun evidence, not anecdotes.

No doubt we will be hearing from Gunderson soon as reports of his death in July were just another conspiracy theory

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#549593 24-Nov-2011 20:29

oxnsox:
gzt: The 'notifications' are likely just for normal cloud seeding type stuff. This is not new at all and has been practiced for many years in different parts of the world.

The China article is specific about the use of cloud seeding, and hints there might have been more to it to keep the sky clear.

The abu-dhabi link is really interesting. I had not heard of that method. Here's a link with more detail:

http://www.livescience.com/10398-rainmaking-middle-eastern-desert-success-scam.html

This article is older, but has more technical detail about the method itself:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/electric-rainmaking-technology-gets-mexicos-blessing

But - you appear to be claiming that 'the weather' is 'manipulated'. It is a bit unclear what you mean by that exactly. Are you claiming all weather is controlled by [insert agency here] for hidden purposes? I don't mean to be facetious, it's just unclear what you are actually claiming.

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Cody I think you'll find we've even done some cloud-seeding here in New Zealand.
I don't consider cloud-seeding or hail-cannons to be 'manipulating' the weather in a conspiratorial sense.
When you or I, from our homes in NZ, can control the weather in another part of the world... thats manipulation.

I'm finding the ionisation based rain making (and rain inhibiting) thing very interesting. This paper has a theoretical model & the appendix contains some basic precipitation data from stations in Mexico. American Meteorological Society.

http://docs.google.com/viewer?url=ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/88063.pdf

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#555267 8-Dec-2011 01:12

BREAKING NEWS: GOV. ACTIVATING "FEMA CAMPS" ACROSS U.S.

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#555388 8-Dec-2011 11:38

I watched only the first 20 seconds or so. 20 seconds was enough to get "National Defence Authorisation Act" and "FEMA camps". Most people will not go that far. If you genuinely want to inform, research it and include links (from reputable news sources where possible) e.g:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/12/05/the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-the-greatest-threat-to-civil-liberties-americans-face/

In summary the NDAA authorizes the US military to engage in domestic operations (like rounding up domestic suspects followed by military detention) on American soil bypassing the courts and the inconvenient justice system. The Forbes article says the president has veto power, so maybe the bill is not legislation yet. You could provide information like that instead of hype.

Federal Emergency Management Authority camps have separate enabling legislation which allows them to be established on military bases and used for any purpose the secretary of Homeland Security deems necessary. Has that legislation passed? don't know. Why not research it and tell us the status.

IMHO since America has already been silly enough to establish something called the office of Homeland Security tasked with saving Americans from everything from terrorists to weather emergencies - they are guaranteed to have Orwell type problems from the get go.

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#556722 11-Dec-2011 21:29

Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

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#556727 11-Dec-2011 21:39

codyc1515: Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

Is that like saying... 'It must be true because it was on Shine?'

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#556729 11-Dec-2011 21:42

codyc1515: Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

They have "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel, so it must be true?

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#556731 11-Dec-2011 21:56

freitasm:
codyc1515: Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

They have "Ancient Aliens" on History Channel, so it must be true?

It was obviously said with sarcasm, I'm not some mindless drone who believes everything he sees.
Also, how could you trust a guy with that haircut? LOL

With that said neither of you went to efforts to disprove the man.

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#556738 11-Dec-2011 22:17

codyc1515: Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

They say "HARP like ELF waves" and show a a radio antenna pointing at the ground, yet the model demonstration uses audio waves, and Dr Agnew talks about vibrating the ground. Two different things.
I'd say the one time they thought they triggered an earthquake was a coincidence.

I doubt even an atomic bomb inserted down a borehole would trigger an earthquake, the equavalent of running HARP for almost a year nonstop (say 100TJ), concentrateed in one spot. ELF by it's very nature is spread over a very wide area and cannot be concentrated on one spot (like microwaves).

EDIT; was using kWh rather than MWh for HARP.

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#556771 12-Dec-2011 07:30

Microwaves causing burning sensation (sorry, but there's one NSFW picture there).

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#556777 12-Dec-2011 07:52

Quick: Lets make a $50 seismic sensor to make sure we keep the government in check!

(Yes, that was a joke, but the Arduino project is cool).

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#556794 12-Dec-2011 08:54

freitasm: Quick: Lets make a $50 seismic sensor to make sure we keep the government in check!

Why???
When you can get an App. that does that.

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#556797 12-Dec-2011 09:03

codyc1515:With that said neither of you went to efforts to disprove the man.

I'm not really here for that... it's something you should be doing before you post.

But I will say there is more evidence that the-earth-moves-for-you during intercourse, than there is for this reported cause and effect event.

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#556819 12-Dec-2011 10:26

codyc1515: Curious to see how this is dismissed, after all: it was shown on the History Channel.

To point out the obvious - that earthquake probably would have happened regardless of what they were doing.

Geez History Channel plays some garbage sometimes.

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