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#564257 4-Jan-2012 11:11

freitasm: And there we go... The bad thing is that the White House needs to actually send out a denial. Imagine the amount of resources wasted with these nutcases...

White House Denies CIA Teleported Obama to Mars

According to Basiago and Stillings, Obama isn?t just lying about his identity. He?s lying about his military service record, too. While his political opponents in 2008 attacked him for never serving, in truth, he was concealing his participation in a hidden CIA intergalactic program hosted at a California community college in 1980.

Obama wasn?t the only one making the otherworldly voyage. As ?Barry Soetero,? the 19-year-old Obama was one of 10 youths selected to secretly teleport to and from Mars, forming a band of interplanetary Teen Titans. Regina Dugan, the director of Darpa, was another member.

Between 1981 and 1983, Obama is supposed to have visited Mars twice, by way of a teleportation chamber called a ?jump room.? Basiago, a fellow chrononaut, told the website Exopolitics that he saw Obama ?walk back to the jump room from across the Martian terrain.? To acknowledge his comrade, Obama is said to have told Basiago, ?We?re here? ? apparently, ?with some sense of fatalism.?

One minute we can't leave our own atmosphere (aka. to the moon), the next we've got high profile people going interplanetary...

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#564278 4-Jan-2012 11:38

http://rt.com/usa/news/fracking-ohio-quake-earth-165/

Ohio lawmakers have put a temporary ban on fracking after experts say it is certain that recent fracking in the Buckeye State caused an outbreak of earthquakes.

"The earthquakes will trickle on as a kind of a cascading process once you've caused them to occur," John Armbruster of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory tells the Associated Press. "This one year of pumping is a pulse that has been pushed into the ground, and it's going to be spreading out for at least a year."

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#564279 4-Jan-2012 11:42

Fracking is nothing new.

But is there a CONSPIRACY link between fracking and the Ohio earthquakes. As in "this was a government-controlled activity to test the effects of fracking as a weapon"?

And if someone comes with this theory, why would the government do it in Ohio instead of somewhere like Alaska, where there are a lot less people to be affected by these "tests"?

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#564280 4-Jan-2012 11:43

freitasm: Fracking is nothing new.

But is there a CONSPIRACY link between fracking and the Ohio earthquakes. As in "this was a government-controlled activity to test the effects of fracking as a weapon"?

And if someone comes with this theory, why would the government do it in Ohio instead of somewhere like Alaska, where there are a lot less people to be affected by these "tests"?

I skimmed over the article then posted here but I don't think it was the government testing it.

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#564285 4-Jan-2012 11:48

Hmmm. It would be good then if you could RTFA before posting random snippets that may or may not be related to something. You know, it would help immensely and make people actually trust what you write.

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#564313 4-Jan-2012 12:45

freitasm: And there we go... The bad thing is that the White House needs to actually send out a denial. Imagine the amount of resources wasted with these nutcases...

White House Denies CIA Teleported Obama to Mars

Did they really bother to send out a denial? I couldn't see anything other than a humorous response to Danger Room from Tommy Vietor.

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#565289 6-Jan-2012 11:46

cgrew: And out of my own interest I was merely observing who would be the first members to comment on the thread.

is that a kind of trolling? or are you attempting to detect who might be part of the conspiracy?

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#565336 6-Jan-2012 13:33

Because there are people who would rather believe the media and take their information as evidence or logical then consider looking outside the "democratic" box from a sceptical point of view.

I see too many people following the "box" these days, and worst of all - believing what they see. Would it not care to ask that maybe there are a few governments that are not being completely truthfull & honest with society?

In my opinion, the Federal Reserve System is the greatest con job in human history. I feel sorry for anyone who actually thinks that that banking system benefits mankind. And to answer your egotistic question, no I wasn't trolling? Nor was I attempting to detect who is part of the conspiracy.

I would like to say that I'm trying to detect the truth. Although in todays day-in-age, gradualism has vapourised any sign of that.

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#565396 6-Jan-2012 15:52

cgrew: Because there are people who would rather believe the media and take their information as evidence or logical then consider looking outside the "democratic" box from a sceptical point of view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWzeeshG7FI%20

Personally I am very cautious of believing any scientific information provided by the media. NZ tv news consistently gets scientific information wrong in a way that is obvious even to me. Not to mention international affairs commentary.

I must admit my attitude to advice provided by a government has changed - after talking to kiwis who were in Fukushima at the time of the nuclear emergency.

1) Not sure what you mean by 'outside the democratic box', and not sure what you mean by 'gradualism'. Can you define those terms?

2) When you say 'Federal Reserve System' are you really objecting to Fractional Reserve Banking practices and conventions? This is worldwide. Fair enough, what do you propose to replace those practices and conventions?

3) Earthquake lights. great video. I was not aware of this phenomena at all. A quick internet search shows this phenomena has been reported by observers all over the world for hundreds of years at least, and documented photographically for the first time in Japan in the 60's. HARP etc did not exist way back then. Should you not examine scientifically accepted and conventional explanations for phenomena you are investigating before uncritically ascribing various phenomena to HARP and other things?

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#565463 6-Jan-2012 18:25

cgrew: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWzeeshG7FI%20

Earthquake lights are being noticed within the science community.

Not sure what that's got to do with conspiracies (though I see the individual who posted that video implicated HAARP with no scientific basis whatsoever.)

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#565563 6-Jan-2012 22:35

Quake lights. Cool. Was talking to a relative of my wife last week, and he is investigating various phenomena asociated with earthquakes. One thing I handn't considered was the possibility of the piezoelectric effect, due to a high percentage of quartz in the rocks, and the massive change in compression forces.

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#565641 7-Jan-2012 08:05

Interesting discussion on Fark today about conspiracy theorists.

The first couple of replies set the tone. Someone that actually watch "Ancient Aliens" and believe that?

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#565655 7-Jan-2012 08:47

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

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#565657 7-Jan-2012 09:01

Skolink: Quake lights. Cool. Was talking to a relative of my wife last week, and he is investigating various phenomena asociated with earthquakes. One thing I handn't considered was the possibility of the piezoelectric effect, due to a high percentage of quartz in the rocks, and the massive change in compression forces.

I saw a guy on a documentary a while ago who was doing his own research into this, well, replicating the effect by putting pressure on rocks. I'm sure we'll find out in the future if there's merit to this idea. It's certainly an intriguing concept.

A mate of mine was outside in the small hours before the Sept quake and saw lightning out to the west of Christchurch. Hmmm.

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#565661 7-Jan-2012 09:15

Pieozelectricity is nothing new really, something people have been studying since the 19th century...

How do you think electronic "quartz" watches?

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