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  Reply # 574212 27-Jan-2012 19:02
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Sheeple are people that are incapable of critical thinking, common sense and thinking independently in general.

Many people called crazy in the past for preaching these so called "conspiracy theories" have turned in to "conspiracy reality".  Calling people crazy now because they say a new world order is upon us, aliens will visit or the WTC attacks were an inside job isn't a good idea, since they could all ring true at some stage.  All these things deserve a second thought for those that are interested.

One day you might end up with egg on your face if proven otherwise....And called a sheep.

EDIT:  I recommend keeping an open mind for all matters.  Its more fun and you can strike some interesting debates.  Its a bit hard on the internet thought.  There is always one twit that wants nothing more than to crash your party.





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  Reply # 574228 27-Jan-2012 21:10
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I keep hearing people saying again and again how bad all of this processed meat is (especially stuff like the Chicken Nuggets). Get a load of this: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4086801/Girl-eats-nothing-but-chicken-nuggets-for-15-years.html

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  Reply # 574233 27-Jan-2012 21:29
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Brendan: Is it the belief (for it cannot be a fact, scientifically speaking) of the skeptics here that conspiracies do NOT exist?


There's a great number of genuine conspiracies out there.

It's the unfounded ones that draw our ire.




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  Reply # 574251 27-Jan-2012 22:54
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What would be the most unfounded one you have come across recently?  Just out of interest.





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  Reply # 574255 27-Jan-2012 23:10
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DravidDavid: What would be the most unfounded one you have come across recently?  Just out of interest.


Chemtrails. Either there is no evidence or someone has done a really good job of flooding the internet with so much stupid 'evidence' that I haven't found any of interest. Not that I think some government at some stage hasn't experimented with spraying the populace of their own country or an enemy country.

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  Reply # 574256 27-Jan-2012 23:15
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DravidDavid: EDIT:  I recommend keeping an open mind for all matters.  Its more fun and you can strike some interesting debates.  Its a bit hard on the internet thought.  There is always one twit that wants nothing more than to crash your party.



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*Haha sheeple pic got more then enough attention ;-)*    

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  Reply # 574258 27-Jan-2012 23:25
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codyc1515: I keep hearing people saying again and again how bad all of this processed meat is (especially stuff like the Chicken Nuggets). Get a load of this: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4086801/Girl-eats-nothing-but-chicken-nuggets-for-15-years.html


I guess that shows they aren't too bad, if that is the only thing she has eaten for 15 years, even considering "The only variation in Stacey's diet apart from fries is the occasional slice of toast for breakfast — and CRISPS".

I told my wife we shouldn't give the kids a taste for McDonalds: "She said: "I first tasted chicken nuggets when my mum took me to McDonald's when I was two. I loved them so much they were all I would eat." Now we've done it.

Yuck.

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  Reply # 574259 27-Jan-2012 23:26
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Skolink:
DravidDavid: What would be the most unfounded one you have come across recently?  Just out of interest.


Chemtrails. Either there is no evidence or someone has done a really good job of flooding the internet with so much stupid 'evidence' that I haven't found any of interest. Not that I think some government at some stage hasn't experimented with spraying the populace of their own country or an enemy country.


I have to say, Chemtrails is a bit weird, but also quite alarming if what they are saying is true.

What about HAARP.  That was another one I thought was crazy, but after a little reading, there is merit behind the theories.





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  Reply # 574260 27-Jan-2012 23:28
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Skolink: Chemtrails. Either there is no evidence or someone has done a really good job of flooding the internet with so much stupid 'evidence' that I haven't found any of interest.



What if a 'natural water' source, lets say high country Canterbury was tested for Aluminium & Barium (being a good reflector of sun-light of course...) was tested. This could be very achievable.    

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  Reply # 574268 27-Jan-2012 23:41
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cgrew:
Skolink: Chemtrails. Either there is no evidence or someone has done a really good job of flooding the internet with so much stupid 'evidence' that I haven't found any of interest.



What if a 'natural water' source, lets say high country Canterbury was tested for Aluminium & Barium (being a good reflector of sun-light of course...) was tested. This could be very achievable.    


I'm not sure what you mean? Some Canterbury wells 100m or more deep cannot be used for drinking water, or have to be treated, due to excessive amounts of dissolved chemicals.
Pegasus Town is a good example, one well there is not used due to the arsenic in the water. Water from the other wells is treated by precipitating out the Manganese, and they are 230m deep. From memory I think the water was aged at about 2000 years (I don't know how the aging was done).

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  Reply # 574275 28-Jan-2012 00:28
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BurningBeard:
Brendan: Is it the belief (for it cannot be a fact, scientifically speaking) of the skeptics here that conspiracies do NOT exist?


There's a great number of genuine conspiracies out there.

It's the unfounded ones that draw our ire.

There is also a dark side to many conspiracy theories, which is not often acknowledged, and which leads to harm.

For instance, if you come to strongly believe that government planes are spraying the earth and poisoning you, then you may come to feel that harming others is necessary to stop this occuring. There are examples where believers of these theories talk about downing planes.

There are also many other conspiracy theories (based on race, world goverment, abortion, etc) whose advocates or acolytes have engaged in extreme harm.

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  Reply # 574278 28-Jan-2012 00:32
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Skolink: I'm not sure what you mean?


I guess I mean like a natural spring with no man-made interferences. Mt Thomas or Mt Grey for example.
   
Pegasus Town is a good example, one well there is not used due to the arsenic in the water.


Interesting. Do you live in Pegasus town if you don't mind me asking? 

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  Reply # 574281 28-Jan-2012 00:35
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cgrew:
Skolink: Chemtrails. Either there is no evidence or someone has done a really good job of flooding the internet with so much stupid 'evidence' that I haven't found any of interest.

What if a 'natural water' source, lets say high country Canterbury was tested for Aluminium & Barium (being a good reflector of sun-light of course...) was tested. This could be very achievable.

That would be interesting and fun project, but make sure you get the science right. The presence or otherwise of these elements will not tell you very much at all. The tests I have read elsewhere are badly performed, and on top of that misinterpret the results generated.

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  Reply # 574284 28-Jan-2012 00:40
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gzt: For instance, if you come to strongly believe that government planes are spraying the earth and poisoning you.


I believe in Geoengineering. Stratospheric aerosol spraying I think is underway & has been for sometime.

Some commentators have suggested that consideration of geoengineering presents a moral hazard because it threatens to reduce the political and popular pressure for emissions reduction.[12] Scientists do not typically suggest geoengineering as an alternative to emissions control, but rather an accompanying strategy.[13] Reviews of geoengineering techniques have emphasised that they are not substitutes for emission controls and have identified potentially stronger and weaker schemes.[  
   

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  Reply # 574285 28-Jan-2012 00:46
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gzt: That would be interesting and fun project, but make sure you get the science right. The presence or otherwise of these elements will not tell you very much at all. The tests I have read elsewhere are badly performed, and on top of that misinterpret the results generated.



I have already made an enquiry with my Father who works for DOC in the Waimakariri district. His Bio guys will conduct the tests at some stage in the next few months. 

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