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  Reply # 592481 8-Mar-2012 17:28
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cgrew:
BurningBeard: Critical thinking explained in six kid-friendly animations  



Good watch. The clips are presented well except the last video there seemed a bit iffy to me, especially at the end where the speaker stated that demanding 100% safety stops technology evolving. My question to you is; How far do people want to evolve with technology? Or technology evolving with people so to speak?


Read an article from that website which I found really interesting.
  


oh i hate ontological arguments,


here is how i see ontological arguments

i define the unicorn as the horse with the horniest head in the world

     assume now that the mythical unicorn does not exist

 now because of this the second horniest headed horse is now by definition "the unicorn"

therefore unicorns exist







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  Reply # 592614 9-Mar-2012 06:59
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Kyanar:
Well no, they don't frankly care about your rights. 



Money greed & power that all comes in to play - But They also seem to enjoy controversial matters hitting the press, other than that they enjoy lying to society.  

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  Reply # 592618 9-Mar-2012 07:29
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cgrew:
Kyanar:
Well no, they don't frankly care about your rights. 



Money greed & power that all comes in to play - But They also seem to enjoy controversial matters hitting the press, other than that they enjoy lying to society.  


Conspiracy theory; where fact becomes fiction, fiction becomes evidence and logic is ignored.




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  Reply # 592630 9-Mar-2012 08:20
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cgrew:But They also seem to enjoy controversial matters hitting the press, other than that they enjoy lying to society.  


Oh not that again!

If his "evidence" is that silly video where someone pulls apart the PDF file in Illustrator then this guy is blowing hot air.
There's nothing unusual about that PDF. I'm a designer and have been working with the PDF format since before it became industry standard.




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  Reply # 593107 10-Mar-2012 10:18
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For anyone interested, cgrew has requested his account be terminated. He was not banned for anything, as much as you conspiracy theorist might think.

(Although, good conspiracy theorist followers would say that's exactly the explanation the powers that be would give in such a case)...





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freitasm: For anyone interested, cgrew has requested his account be terminated. He was not banned for anything, as much as you conspiracy theorist might think.

(Although, good conspiracy theorist followers would say that's exactly the explanation the powers that be would give in such a case)...


Yes, deleting his account: that will solve everything. Did he give a reason why?



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  Reply # 602234 29-Mar-2012 22:05
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Just wondering what all you skeptics think of stuff like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NZ&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dvPR8T1o3Dc&nomobile=1 

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  Reply # 602449 30-Mar-2012 12:50
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nullmee: Just wondering what all you skeptics think of stuff like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NZ&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dvPR8T1o3Dc&nomobile=1 


I think unidentified and unexplained means just that.

Lack of explanation ≠ aliens. 




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  Reply # 602507 30-Mar-2012 13:54
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nullmee: Just wondering what all you skeptics think of stuff like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NZ&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dvPR8T1o3Dc&nomobile=1 


I think unidentified and unexplained means just that.

Lack of explanation ≠ aliens. 


Don't you think its interesting that a Nasa Astronaut has came out and said that he has seen UFO's?  And yes I know unlike lots of other people UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object.

But listen to him explain what he saw.  These craft were metallic saucer shaped objects which seemed to be intelligently controlled.  When you have someone like Gordon Cooper coming to the conclusion that these were possibly alien spaceships, what do you think of that?

He is a highly trained and experienced pilot/astronaut.  It's easy to say they are just unidentified but what do you think they were?


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  Reply # 602536 30-Mar-2012 14:25
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nullmee:
BurningBeard:
nullmee: Just wondering what all you skeptics think of stuff like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NZ&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dvPR8T1o3Dc&nomobile=1 


I think unidentified and unexplained means just that.

Lack of explanation ≠ aliens. 


Don't you think its interesting that a Nasa Astronaut has came out and said that he has seen UFO's?  And yes I know unlike lots of other people UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object.

But listen to him explain what he saw.  These craft were metallic saucer shaped objects which seemed to be intelligently controlled.  When you have someone like Gordon Cooper coming to the conclusion that these were possibly alien spaceships, what do you think of that?

He is a highly trained and experienced pilot/astronaut.  It's easy to say they are just unidentified but what do you think they were?



I don't know what they are.. you're asking what I think something is based on what someone else saw.

They could be neurological impacts of the high G forces astronauts deal with. They might be optical artifacts brought on by stress. They might be aliens. They might be an astronaut with a wicked sense of humour laughing at us.

I'm not going looking for the report, but I presume none of his fellow astronauts saw this and he didn't get any photos?

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  Reply # 602549 30-Mar-2012 14:44
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nullmee:
BurningBeard:
nullmee: Just wondering what all you skeptics think of stuff like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=NZ&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dvPR8T1o3Dc&nomobile=1 


I think unidentified and unexplained means just that.

Lack of explanation ≠ aliens. 


Don't you think its interesting that a Nasa Astronaut has came out and said that he has seen UFO's?  And yes I know unlike lots of other people UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object.

But listen to him explain what he saw.  These craft were metallic saucer shaped objects which seemed to be intelligently controlled.  When you have someone like Gordon Cooper coming to the conclusion that these were possibly alien spaceships, what do you think of that?

He is a highly trained and experienced pilot/astronaut.  It's easy to say they are just unidentified but what do you think they were?



I don't know what they are.. you're asking what I think something is based on what someone else saw.

They could be neurological impacts of the high G forces astronauts deal with. They might be optical artifacts brought on by stress. They might be aliens. They might be an astronaut with a wicked sense of humour laughing at us.

I'm not going looking for the report, but I presume none of his fellow astronauts saw this and he didn't get any photos?

N.



Have you watched the video?  It was witnessed by more than one person and they did get video footage.  "They could be neurological impacts of the high G forces astronauts deal with" - That is just plain ridiculous.  Somehow I find it hard to believe they could all experience the same hallucination and get video footage of the event. 

There are lots of examples like this one and I also don't think he was doing it for a laugh.  Why?  Look at his face when he is telling the story, if he is lying he is a really good actor.  And at that age I also find it hard to believe he is lying

I'm not saying there aliens either.  But I defiantly find stories like this interesting.

Here is another to look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-Landrum_incident

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  Reply # 602553 30-Mar-2012 14:49
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nullmee: [snip]
I'm not saying there aliens either.  But I defiantly find stories like this interesting.

[snip]


You probably don't realise how perfectly apt your statement is.

Cheers - N :-)

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  Reply # 602557 30-Mar-2012 14:57
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nullmee: [snip]
Here is another to look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash-Landrum_incident


Hahahhahahaa..

"However, Vickie's opinion of the object quickly changed: a born again Christian, she interpreted the object as a sign of the second coming of Jesus Christ, telling her grandson, "That's Jesus. He will not hurt us.""

"Vickie Landrum's hand pressed into the softened vinyl, leaving an imprint that was evident weeks later. Investigators cited this handprint as proof of the witnesses' account; however, no photograph of the alleged handprint exists."

"Investigators later located a Dayton police officer, Detective Lamar Walker, and his wife who claimed to have seen 12 Chinook-type helicopters near the same area the Cash-Landrum event allegedly occurred and at roughly the same time. These other witnesses did not report seeing a large diamond-shaped object."

"On August 21, 1986, a U.S. District Court judge dismissed their case, noting that the plaintiffs had not proved that the helicopters were associated with the U.S. Government, and that military officials had testified that the United States Armed Forces did not have a large, diamond shaped aircraft in their possession."

Gold...

So a born again Christian saw the second coming of Christ, got sick along with her family, and other witnesses report seeing some helicopters?

Well I'm sold... I guess Aliens totally exist.

Cheers - N

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  Reply # 602560 30-Mar-2012 15:04
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nullmee: 
Have you watched the video?  It was witnessed by more than one person and they did get video footage. 


And that footage is where?

Just because he was an astronaut, doesn't make him any more credible than any other eye-witness account or anecdote. Astronauts are capable of the same cognitive errors or making stuff up just as much as the next guy.

This "saucer" description that caught on after the Kenneth Arnold sightings is curious. He only ever said they seemed to skim the sky like saucers, not shaped like them.




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