For all of you, conspiracy theorist and believers (UFO, Haarp, New World Order)

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Reply # 537783 26-Oct-2011 15:26

freitasm: Now this comment is just silly.

You are not being censored. It's a bug, one I've seen many times - it thinks the last reply in the thread is on a page, but it's actually on a page before.

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Reply # 537839 26-Oct-2011 17:00

In regard to my earlier posts about the Herald, I did not see any further analysis or development of the Thursday/Friday's story 'earthquake warning suppressed of advice of social scientists'.

Online the Herald articles attracted comments along the lines of: 'my [insert relation] might be alive today if [...]', 'Can't trust the government [...]'.

I guarantee I will hear this 'the government knew' theme in many places.

I find the lack of further development of the story irritating and incredibly irresponsible. Right or wrong in the end, the Herald have not provided the full facts and analysis to allow readers to make an informed judgement.

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Reply # 537860 26-Oct-2011 17:33

gzt: the Herald have not provided the full facts and analysis to allow readers to make an informed judgement.

Business as usual then.

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Reply # 538842 28-Oct-2011 18:37

Just remembered something from the old Moscow Rules: "There is no limit to a human being's ability to rationalize the truth"...

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Reply # 541648 6-Nov-2011 11:18

David Icke was on TV3 news.

He tip-toes around the reptilian aspect of his ideas, because he didn't want to look "mad"... too late for that Davey boy! He preferred to say it's covered in his talk, which is NINE HOURS. Wow.

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Reply # 541696 6-Nov-2011 15:09

At the Telstra Clear Pacific Events center in Manukau. 9hrs for $77. Only 40 tickets left - yeah right.

https://register.eventarc.com/event/view/2532/tickets/new-zealand-event-david-icke-tour-nov-6-2011

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Reply # 542497 8-Nov-2011 12:19

Looks like I missed out "this event is currently not available". David Icke is totally confused - George W. Bush is not reptillian, chimps are primates!!

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Reply # 545704 15-Nov-2011 18:14

Top 10 worst anti-science websites:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4283

Natural News is #1, and for good reason. It's a train-wreck of junk science and it's ridiculously popular.

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Reply # 548691 23-Nov-2011 00:16

This ones for all the people still claiming that the weather cannot possibly be manipulated.

China's 'weather modification' works like magic
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/oct/01/china-cloud-seeding-parade

Weather Modification
http://www.tdlr.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm

NOTICE OF INTENTION WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY WATER AGENCY HEREBY GIVES NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CONDUCT A WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM NATURE AND PURPOSE
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/classified-ads/ad/1669597

Abu Dhabi-backed scientists create fake rainstorms in $11m project
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-backed-scientists-create-fake-rainstorms-in-11m-project-371038.html

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Reply # 548697 23-Nov-2011 00:38

BurningBeard: Top 10 worst anti-science websites:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4283

Natural News is #1, and for good reason. It's a train-wreck of junk science and it's ridiculously popular.

Lets take one of the headlines from naturalnews taken from your link: "Fluoride means lower IQs and more mental retardation". They claim that this is not true, but don't try to disprove it with facts. Here is a whole article on how you can get Fluoride poisoning with sources and all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning

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Reply # 548732 23-Nov-2011 08:34

The 'notifications' are likely just for normal cloud seeding type stuff. This is not new at all and has been practiced for many years in different parts of the world.

The China article is specific about the use of cloud seeding, and hints there might have been more to it to keep the sky clear.

The abu-dhabi link is really interesting. I had not heard of that method. Here's a link with more detail:

http://www.livescience.com/10398-rainmaking-middle-eastern-desert-success-scam.html

This article is older, but has more technical detail about the method itself:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/electric-rainmaking-technology-gets-mexicos-blessing

But - you appear to be claiming that 'the weather' is 'manipulated'. It is a bit unclear what you mean by that exactly. Are you claiming all weather is controlled by [insert agency here] for hidden purposes? I don't mean to be facetious, it's just unclear what you are actually claiming.

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Reply # 548737 23-Nov-2011 08:43

codyc1515:
BurningBeard: Top 10 worst anti-science websites:

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4283

Natural News is #1, and for good reason. It's a train-wreck of junk science and it's ridiculously popular.

Lets take one of the headlines from naturalnews taken from your link: "Fluoride means lower IQs and more mental retardation". They claim that this is not true, but don't try to disprove it with facts. Here is a whole article on how you can get Fluoride poisoning with sources and all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_poisoning

Fluoride poisoning is completely different to - claiming that water supply fluoridation means lower iq's and more mental retardation. You are comparing apples and oranges. Personally I feel the evidence for the claimed benefits of fluoridation is not robust - but this is completely different again from all of that.

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Reply # 548755 23-Nov-2011 09:18

gzt: The 'notifications' are likely just for normal cloud seeding type stuff. This is not new at all and has been practiced for many years in different parts of the world.

The China article is specific about the use of cloud seeding, and hints there might have been more to it to keep the sky clear.

The abu-dhabi link is really interesting. I had not heard of that method. Here's a link with more detail:

http://www.livescience.com/10398-rainmaking-middle-eastern-desert-success-scam.html

This article is older, but has more technical detail about the method itself:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/environment/electric-rainmaking-technology-gets-mexicos-blessing

But - you appear to be claiming that 'the weather' is 'manipulated'. It is a bit unclear what you mean by that exactly. Are you claiming all weather is controlled by [insert agency here] for hidden purposes? I don't mean to be facetious, it's just unclear what you are actually claiming.

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Cody I think you'll find we've even done some cloud-seeding here in New Zealand.
I don't consider cloud-seeding or hail-cannons to be 'manipulating' the weather in a conspiratorial sense.
When you or I, from our homes in NZ, can control the weather in another part of the world... thats manipulation.

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Reply # 548817 23-Nov-2011 10:57

codyc1515: This ones for all the people still claiming that the weather cannot possibly be manipulated.

China's 'weather modification' works like magic
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/oct/01/china-cloud-seeding-parade

Weather Modification
http://www.tdlr.state.tx.us/weather/weathermod.htm

NOTICE OF INTENTION WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM THE SANTA BARBARA COUNTY WATER AGENCY HEREBY GIVES NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CONDUCT A WEATHER MODIFICATION PROGRAM NATURE AND PURPOSE
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/classified-ads/ad/1669597

Abu Dhabi-backed scientists create fake rainstorms in $11m project
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/abu-dhabi-backed-scientists-create-fake-rainstorms-in-11m-project-371038.html

Speaking for myself I've never claimed that weather cannot possibly manipulated. I think it can.

My stance was that HAARP is not a super weapon/earthquake machine, and that chemtrails are just plain old contrails.

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Reply # 549273 24-Nov-2011 10:52

http://youtu.be/YZ2VpfUqRoo

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