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  Reply # 944645 3-Dec-2013 12:02
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  Reply # 944757 3-Dec-2013 14:41
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OK, and back on topic (I hope). 

I work on the periphery of the news industry.

The basic problem is that in order to actually make money what used to be called 'general news' has had to become as cheap to produce and as widely readable as absolutely possible.

A lot of Stuff is copied from Australian publications because it is cheaper than paying journalists here. Investigative journalism as we knew it has pretty much died. The actual value addition of journalism which is that they actually checked facts, did research and knew more about what went on today than you did has been steadily degraded since at least the 80's at least.

The good news is that with the rise of the internet pretty much whatever you are into there is a reasonably good blog or source out there. Specialist writers writing quality analysis and thought provoking stuff.

For me:

The Register for tech
Propublica for politics
Foreign Policy Magazine for ... well you get the idea

In order to appeal to the lowest common denominator most 'main stream' press focus on celebs. Stuff here with the Best and Worst Dressed, The Daily Mail will keep you up to date with I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here. 
 




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For me (in rough order):

NZ News:
NZ Herald
3news.co.nz

AU News:
theguardian.com/au
theage.com.au
abc.net.au

International News:
theguardian.com
aljazeera.com
bbc.co.uk

Avoid like the plague:
stuff.co.nz
news.com.au
dailytelegraph.com.au
heraldsun.com.au
foxnews.com
Anything else Murdoch controlled




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Twitter, only place to see what's happening now - without any editorial influence




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Stuff.

It's full of quality celebrity gossip.




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  Reply # 944869 3-Dec-2013 16:57
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jonherries: Depends on your political persuasion. Generally there are three news sources in the world:

Finally I tend to top off my coverage with serious newstalk from www.thedailyshow.com  

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Haven't been to the Daily Show website for a month or two but it looks it's blocked for kiwis again.  Has Sky put the program back on again??




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The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.





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Geektastic: The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.

Pretty sure the student up a tree in Dunedin made those though...

While I do kind of agree with you, this is the kind of thing I hear a LOT from Brits. While you grew up close to the action as it were, we are relatively isolated (and for the most part happily so). If you want the kind of news you're used to, there are places to get it, NZ "news" caters to Kiwis, we typically don't care about a lot of the goings on as long as the countries involved keep it to themselves.

I do agree that NZ "news" is rubbish, but I don't particularly care.




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Not if you buy woman's magazine in Australia/New Zealand published by Bauer (which by the way bought NZ Woman's Weekly from APN):


Bauer has put “processes in place” around internationally syndicated content after more examples of international stories being presented as local content came to light, including the address of an English woman telling the tale of her “crooked cop” husband being further changed for the New Zealand market.

On Friday Mumbrella revealed a story in Take 5 by Lisa Andrew had her home address changed from Redruth, Cornwall, to Redfern, NSW. At the time Bauer blamed it on a typographical “error”, but it has emerged the same story in Bauer’s Lucky Break magazine in New Zealand described her as being from Christchurch. Both titles are under the purview of real-life weeklies editor-in-chief Paul Merrill.

In this week’s Take 5 Sara Westle, the source of the story ‘She’s keeping a deadly secret’, is said to be from Melton, Victoria, rather than her actual home of Leicester in the midlands of England.






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Geektastic: The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.

Pretty sure the student up a tree in Dunedin made those though...

While I do kind of agree with you, this is the kind of thing I hear a LOT from Brits. While you grew up close to the action as it were, we are relatively isolated (and for the most part happily so). If you want the kind of news you're used to, there are places to get it, NZ "news" caters to Kiwis, we typically don't care about a lot of the goings on as long as the countries involved keep it to themselves.

I do agree that NZ "news" is rubbish, but I don't particularly care.


Sadly I hear this far too often from Kiwis.

This is not the 1970's. You NEED to care what happens elsewhere because it DOES affect NZ and very quickly now. Economically, NZ no longer lives in a bubble. Every Kiwisaver fund holds foreign shares, the Cullen Fund has only 18% of its money held in NZ and our economy relies on overseas markets, politics and economics.

It is no longer an option to ignore the world. We are no longer 'relatively isolated' when I can move $1 million in 10 seconds and leave Auckland at 9am and have dinner in Singapore on the same day. The rose-tinted L&P advert version of NZ is no more, like it or not, and will never be again.





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ajobbins: For me (in rough order):

NZ News:
NZ Herald
3news.co.nz

AU News:
theguardian.com/au
theage.com.au
abc.net.au

International News:
theguardian.com
aljazeera.com
bbc.co.uk

Avoid like the plague:
stuff.co.nz
news.com.au
dailytelegraph.com.au
heraldsun.com.au
foxnews.com
Anything else Murdoch controlled


I pretty much agree with that list. The Herald is a bit marginal as a real news site now (although its "news" content isn't nearly as execrable as what now passes for news on Stuff). 

For domestic news, I would add the TVNZ website as it sometimes (although increasingly less frequently) has worthwhile content. For international news, I would also suggest adding telegraph.co.uk, washingtonpost.com and spiegel.de/international/ which all tend to have good original content. Also, theaustralian.com.au is sometimes worth a look.

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Geektastic:
andrewNZ:
Geektastic: The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.

Pretty sure the student up a tree in Dunedin made those though...

While I do kind of agree with you, this is the kind of thing I hear a LOT from Brits. While you grew up close to the action as it were, we are relatively isolated (and for the most part happily so). If you want the kind of news you're used to, there are places to get it, NZ "news" caters to Kiwis, we typically don't care about a lot of the goings on as long as the countries involved keep it to themselves.

I do agree that NZ "news" is rubbish, but I don't particularly care.


Sadly I hear this far too often from Kiwis.

This is not the 1970's. You NEED to care what happens elsewhere because it DOES affect NZ and very quickly now. Economically, NZ no longer lives in a bubble. Every Kiwisaver fund holds foreign shares, the Cullen Fund has only 18% of its money held in NZ and our economy relies on overseas markets, politics and economics.

It is no longer an option to ignore the world. We are no longer 'relatively isolated' when I can move $1 million in 10 seconds and leave Auckland at 9am and have dinner in Singapore on the same day. The rose-tinted L&P advert version of NZ is no more, like it or not, and will never be again.


So lets say I do care, and one of the following happens:

Pakistan and India start banging heads hard again.
The NASDAQ dives.
The US decides to invade someone again.

First, it'll make the news here.
Second, realistically, what can I possibly do... Nothing, nothing at all.






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