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  Reply # 946633 6-Dec-2013 15:30
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stuff.co.nz is great




gz ftw


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  Reply # 946648 6-Dec-2013 15:51
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b0untypure1: stuff.co.nz is great


You are a bad person :|




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  Reply # 946658 6-Dec-2013 16:03
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Personally I'm resigned to the quality of journalism of today, it's a symptom of the times as I don't think people are willing to pay for quality any more. I always treat developing news stories with seriously large grains of salt and really only at a broad level as the details are so often inaccurate. Of course, it's the first to the story aspect that's playing a big role in causing quality to slip.

I think once you recognise each source's limitations it's easier to filter/translate it. This is particularly the case for their different biases - NZ Herald and RadioNZ (I still rate RadioNZ as NZ's better news source) left wing tilt, or Whale Oil's well declared right wing slant... Read enough of them and you get an aggregated perspective of what's going on.

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  Reply # 946683 6-Dec-2013 17:05
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andrewNZ:
Geektastic:
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Geektastic: The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.

Pretty sure the student up a tree in Dunedin made those though...

While I do kind of agree with you, this is the kind of thing I hear a LOT from Brits. While you grew up close to the action as it were, we are relatively isolated (and for the most part happily so). If you want the kind of news you're used to, there are places to get it, NZ "news" caters to Kiwis, we typically don't care about a lot of the goings on as long as the countries involved keep it to themselves.

I do agree that NZ "news" is rubbish, but I don't particularly care.


Sadly I hear this far too often from Kiwis.

This is not the 1970's. You NEED to care what happens elsewhere because it DOES affect NZ and very quickly now. Economically, NZ no longer lives in a bubble. Every Kiwisaver fund holds foreign shares, the Cullen Fund has only 18% of its money held in NZ and our economy relies on overseas markets, politics and economics.

It is no longer an option to ignore the world. We are no longer 'relatively isolated' when I can move $1 million in 10 seconds and leave Auckland at 9am and have dinner in Singapore on the same day. The rose-tinted L&P advert version of NZ is no more, like it or not, and will never be again.


So lets say I do care, and one of the following happens:

Pakistan and India start banging heads hard again.
The NASDAQ dives.
The US decides to invade someone again.

First, it'll make the news here.
Second, realistically, what can I possibly do... Nothing, nothing at all.




You can take any necessary action to protect any funds you have invested outside NZ for start.

You can hypothesise what effect such things may have on any positions you have in stock markets here and overseas and devise a strategy with your advisors to mitigate it.

You can cancel the trip you had planned to India.

You can develop a mortgage interest strategy to protect your family finances as much as possible from any fluctuations caused by overseas events.

You can decide whether events create a need for you to convert intangible assets into tangible ones.

I could go on.






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  Reply # 946720 6-Dec-2013 18:39
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I find you pretty much have to read the same article on CNN, FOX and BBC, then average the bias out to get a balanced take on what's going on.

NZ Herald has become a joke, headline's which don't come close to describing the content of the articles. You can find better reporting over at The Civilian

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  Reply # 946947 7-Dec-2013 09:27
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Is Quality news good news or bad news or both? I rate news by the editorial standards used. Some is badly written, some is sensationalist designed to get reader attention - it is not quality. I tend to shop around looking at different news sites in NZ and overseas to get a broader perspective. Sometimes though the old axiom "no news is good news" can be the best news. One can get down reading too much bad news so a holiday from it can be quite refreshing.

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  Reply # 947613 8-Dec-2013 19:34
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 Where can I find QUALITY news???

 


 The Onion.


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Geektastic: The BBC or the Times in London.

At least they recognise that a cat up a tree in Dunedin is not news to anyone but the owner of the cat and that there is a thing called 'the world' outside NZ in which things happen.


This made me laugh. But it's not unique to Godzone. We were in Guernsey for a while, and - I kid you not - the front page spread on the Guernsey Press one day was about a woman that had lost her cell phone.

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Twitter is my main (albeit often inaccurate) source for current events.

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 Where can I find QUALITY news???

 The Onion.



People who think The Onion is real







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  Reply # 947960 9-Dec-2013 12:39
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k1wi: I still rate RadioNZ as NZ's better news source


I'd agree with this and that there is a bit of a left wing tilt. RNZ is also a bit arts focussed for me. 

Having said that there is no journalistic outlet that will actually go after a politician like Morning Report or Check Point. They will actually ask questions that politicians don't want to answer. 




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  Reply # 948154 9-Dec-2013 15:32
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Although the site is not active at the moment - http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/ gets my vote for best news site of 2013!

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