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The Nespresso system eliminates the following variables: coffee quality, grind, humidity, tamping, water pressure and temp. After that, there's not much left that can go wrong!
Fred99: I think you're completely dreaming.
Nespresso has it's place, but to compare it with a good cafe or good home brewed coffee (and you don't need an expensive machine - just a little skill) is absolutely ludicrous.
JamesL:The Nespresso system eliminates the following variables: coffee quality, grind, humidity, tamping, water pressure and temp. After that, there's not much left that can go wrong!
What was the roast date on the last capsule you used?
Fred99:
I think you're completely dreaming.
Nespresso has it's place, but to compare it with a good cafe or good home brewed coffee (and you don't need an expensive machine - just a little skill) is absolutely ludicrous.
NZtechfreak:Fred99: I think you're completely dreaming.
Nespresso has it's place, but to compare it with a good cafe or good home brewed coffee (and you don't need an expensive machine - just a little skill) is absolutely ludicrous.
+1
They have their place, but frankly the coffee they produce tastes like you are getting what you paid for. The coffee I have at home is better than many cafes around Auckland and right up there with all but the very best. Not had anything remotely approaching that from any of the several Nespresso type machines I've had occasion to have drinks from before.
Oh, and someone mentioned the Vibieme machines earlier - good machines but for the same kind of money the Expobar Brewtus (also called the Expobar Minore) are better in my opinion. Very similar (E61 etc) but the Brewtus has a much larger drip tray and thermal PID.
Nakedcity:Fred99:
I think you're completely dreaming.
Nespresso has it's place, but to compare it with a good cafe or good home brewed coffee (and you don't need an expensive machine - just a little skill) is absolutely ludicrous.
I don't even know what you mean by this.
I'm comparing espresso to espresso in terms of quality based on my experience. Maybe you like different things? What is a home brewed coffee? Plunger?
Fred99:Nakedcity:Fred99:
I think you're completely dreaming.
Nespresso has it's place, but to compare it with a good cafe or good home brewed coffee (and you don't need an expensive machine - just a little skill) is absolutely ludicrous.
I don't even know what you mean by this.
I'm comparing espresso to espresso in terms of quality based on my experience. Maybe you like different things? What is a home brewed coffee? Plunger?
You may note that I haven't completely panned nespresso - which is to espresso as Pataks is to curry.
If that's good enough for you, then that's fine with me, but please cut the assumption that because your friends can't make what you consider to be a good coffee with home espresso equipment, that limitation necessarily applies to anybody else.
Your comments about the need for a multi-group commercial machine is needed to make good espresso is nonsense, just demonstrating your lack of understanding of the difference between typical commercial machines and better home machines, why those differences exist (tip - it's not necessarily $$$), and why despite the equipment, some top baristas will operate their commercial equipment in a manner much more consistent with how a home enthusiast operates their equipment, than with what you see at starbucks or wild bean cafe.
You've also tried to take cheap shots at people who do have an interest in making the best home espresso that they can, based on some memory of some espresso you once had in an Italian cafe - which IMO isn't a very good reference point at all. It's also patronising to many of the excellent roasters, baristas, cafes, and home-espresso enthusiasts in NZ - who are arguably second to nobody else in the world.
Nakedcity:
If you're an enthusiast like "il mago del caffè" here,
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