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Fred99: My home espresso setup is a Mazzer grinder and Rocket Cellini Evoluzione, retail price about $5k (NZ retail prices are very high though).
Fred99:
My home espresso setup is a Mazzer grinder and Rocket Cellini Evoluzione, retail price about $5k (NZ retail prices are very high though). This is expensive, but by no means extreme. I don't believe you can save on grinder cost, but there's a premium paid for Rocket machines because of quality of finish, and in the case of the machine we have, for a commercial quality rotary vane pump which is very quiet in operation and can be easily plumbed-in, but those features won't improve the coffee, just a touch of luxury/convenience, you can do it for less (much less - but never scrimp on the grinder).
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Regs:Fred99:
My home espresso setup is a Mazzer grinder and Rocket Cellini Evoluzione, retail price about $5k (NZ retail prices are very high though). This is expensive, but by no means extreme. I don't believe you can save on grinder cost, but there's a premium paid for Rocket machines because of quality of finish, and in the case of the machine we have, for a commercial quality rotary vane pump which is very quiet in operation and can be easily plumbed-in, but those features won't improve the coffee, just a touch of luxury/convenience, you can do it for less (much less - but never scrimp on the grinder).
i had an email from rocket.co.nz the other day offering $1k off the Rocket Cellini V2 making it $2550. These are impressive machines, but they do cost a lot - especially when you add $1k for mazzer grinder - you have to really like your coffee to justify spending that much! $3.5k would be the equivalent of nearly 700 store bought flat whites at $5 a pop.... or 850 at $4 (and thats not counting the cost of beans, milk, grinder cleaning stuff, descaling compounds and anual servicing!)
Some people would be better off just finding an awesome coffee shop and paying for a coffee a day than buying their own kit - especially if (even with all the flash kit) they still cant produce a good cup of coffee.
Regs:Fred99:
My home espresso setup is a Mazzer grinder and Rocket Cellini Evoluzione, retail price about $5k (NZ retail prices are very high though). This is expensive, but by no means extreme. I don't believe you can save on grinder cost, but there's a premium paid for Rocket machines because of quality of finish, and in the case of the machine we have, for a commercial quality rotary vane pump which is very quiet in operation and can be easily plumbed-in, but those features won't improve the coffee, just a touch of luxury/convenience, you can do it for less (much less - but never scrimp on the grinder).
i had an email from rocket.co.nz the other day offering $1k off the Rocket Cellini V2 making it $2550. These are impressive machines, but they do cost a lot - especially when you add $1k for mazzer grinder - you have to really like your coffee to justify spending that much! $3.5k would be the equivalent of nearly 700 store bought flat whites at $5 a pop.... or 850 at $4 (and thats not counting the cost of beans, milk, grinder cleaning stuff, descaling compounds and anual servicing!)
Some people would be better off just finding an awesome coffee shop and paying for a coffee a day than buying their own kit - especially if (even with all the flash kit) they still cant produce a good cup of coffee.
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NZtechfreak:Regs:
Some people would be better off just finding an awesome coffee shop and paying for a coffee a day than buying their own kit - especially if (even with all the flash kit) they still cant produce a good cup of coffee.
The savings Vs buying all those probably makes it worthwhile in the longterm for the bona fide coffee fiend.
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Regs:[/quoted for truth]NZtechfreak:Regs:
Some people would be better off just finding an awesome coffee shop and paying for a coffee a day than buying their own kit - especially if (even with all the flash kit) they still cant produce a good cup of coffee.
The savings Vs buying all those probably makes it worthwhile in the longterm for the bona fide coffee fiend.
by "some people" i never meant you, nor I, nor the true 'bona fide coffee fiend'. I like having the ability to produce a top cup of coffee at home, and would even pay more for the convenience.... i've had some truly awful coffee from a home rocket (and from some coffee shops) and these people would certainly be better off going down a different path - even nespresso!
qwertee: Bottom line is stick to the Nespresso brand capsules for a consistently good cup of coffee.
Regs: i had an email from rocket.co.nz the other day offering $1k off the Rocket Cellini V2 making it $2550
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NZtechfreak:Regs:Fred99:
My home espresso setup is a Mazzer grinder and Rocket Cellini Evoluzione, retail price about $5k (NZ retail prices are very high though). This is expensive, but by no means extreme. I don't believe you can save on grinder cost, but there's a premium paid for Rocket machines because of quality of finish, and in the case of the machine we have, for a commercial quality rotary vane pump which is very quiet in operation and can be easily plumbed-in, but those features won't improve the coffee, just a touch of luxury/convenience, you can do it for less (much less - but never scrimp on the grinder).
i had an email from rocket.co.nz the other day offering $1k off the Rocket Cellini V2 making it $2550. These are impressive machines, but they do cost a lot - especially when you add $1k for mazzer grinder - you have to really like your coffee to justify spending that much! $3.5k would be the equivalent of nearly 700 store bought flat whites at $5 a pop.... or 850 at $4 (and thats not counting the cost of beans, milk, grinder cleaning stuff, descaling compounds and anual servicing!)
Some people would be better off just finding an awesome coffee shop and paying for a coffee a day than buying their own kit - especially if (even with all the flash kit) they still cant produce a good cup of coffee.
Yes and no :)
In ~4 years, I've made over 4000 cups on my machine (my set-up similar in cost to the Rocket, about $3.6K all up with the grinder). It's also built like a tank and with a little maintenance along the way, I can't see any reason why it won't last another 20 years and go on to make another 16,000 or so coffees in that time (no way these nespresso pretenders can claim anything like that longevity). The savings Vs buying all those probably makes it worthwhile in the longterm for the bona fide coffee fiend.
thecatsgoolies:
Okay, am going to be shot down in flames now but I have taken to buying the Robert Harris coffee bags and having one each morning in my plunger for one! I love it ....Not bad for a Robert Harris brew and I don't normally endorse them and to be honest, would happily walk past their cafe's but they really aren't that bad!
Fred99:thecatsgoolies:
Okay, am going to be shot down in flames now but I have taken to buying the Robert Harris coffee bags and having one each morning in my plunger for one! I love it ....Not bad for a Robert Harris brew and I don't normally endorse them and to be honest, would happily walk past their cafe's but they really aren't that bad!
You're not going to get shot down in flames, but if you like plunger coffee, then a relatively inexpensive grinder will allow you to use fresh beans from your local cafe/roaster. It's different from espresso grind, where a much finer and consistent grind is needed to make proper espresso and inexpensive Breville/Sunbeam appliance store burr grinders just don't cut the mustard, but would probably be perfectly fine for plunger. Some "coffee snob" cafes offer plunger and filter as well as espresso - about the only thing they probably won't do is instant.
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freitasm: I use instant for a cafe con leche: a cup of milk in microwave for two minutes, two spoons of instant coffee... I drink this in the morning, every day, for the last 40 something years. After that is one cafe latte in the morning and then two or three espresso during the day (when at home).
I actually think most of my liquid intake is from coffee than just water...
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