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#557740 14-Dec-2011 09:16

The George Clooney ads for Nespresso are really funny. There's an old series with George Clooney and John Malkovich - YouTube is your friend.

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#557801 14-Dec-2011 11:03

If they can do it...

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#557899 14-Dec-2011 14:32

freitasm: Just a note, Nespresso has opened a boutique in Auckland, where you can buy capsules, machines, try different blends, etc...

I've been to a few Nespresso stores around the world, quite fun actually.

I'm up in AKL as I went to Foo Fighters last night. Anyway, life story aside, I just went to the Nespresso store to try before I buy and the Ristretto - Intensity 10 was my favourite

Definitely going to buy a machine when I get back to Wellington. They were saying that if things go well they'll hopefully open a Nespresso store in Wellington

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#557902 14-Dec-2011 14:35

How much are the capsules for the Nespresso and where do you get them? I'm a bit worried about tying myself to a specific brand in case the price skyrockets/supply issues etc. Am I worrying too much?

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#557904 14-Dec-2011 14:36

IS the Vibiemme Domobar Super a total overkill for making 1 short black most of the time :| there are a few at good used prices but it looks like a very large tank etc to be heating...

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#557909 14-Dec-2011 14:49

langers1972: How much are the capsules for the Nespresso and where do you get them? I'm a bit worried about tying myself to a specific brand in case the price skyrockets/supply issues etc. Am I worrying too much?

It depends, but the ones I buy are $0.83 each. Prices haven't changed in a couple of years.

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#557938 14-Dec-2011 15:29

I buy the pods for the Ascasa from here: http://www.coffeetrendz.co.nz/ or Moore Wilsons... it's a more generic pod than the nespresso so more options out there.

150 pods for $103..

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#557958 14-Dec-2011 16:02

Sancho: IS the Vibiemme Domobar Super a total overkill for making 1 short black most of the time :| there are a few at good used prices but it looks like a very large tank etc to be heating...

The Expobar Brewtus is cheaper than the Vibiemme's and a better machine. Wouldn't be many Expobar's out there second hand in NZ though.

The aeroccino thing looks interesting, but as good as it results look for a device of it's kind I haven't seen anything that makes me think that it can replace a proper steam wand (for extreme snobs like me at any rate).

+1 for the Bodum's, I have two of the small espresso ones and four of the low-ball glasses (brilliant for cold drinks too since you don't get any condensation forming on the outside!).

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#557959 14-Dec-2011 16:06

MartinGZ: So much coffee being drunk!!

So Sancho wants a great ristretto. (Now hands up who know what that is without googling it?)

Would have thought most here know what a ristretto is?

If you want a decent ristretto then I think that ramps the required price of the machine up quite a bit, due in no small part to the reason you mention - milk had hide a lot of ills.

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#557962 14-Dec-2011 16:09

NZtechfreak:
MartinGZ: So much coffee being drunk!!

So Sancho wants a great ristretto. (Now hands up who know what that is without googling it?)

Would have thought most here know what a ristretto is?

If you want a decent ristretto then I think that ramps the required price of the machine up quite a bit, due in no small part to the reason you mention - milk had hide a lot of ills.

You an E61 machine is required?

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#557964 14-Dec-2011 16:13

This looks like a pretty cool idea:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/zpmespresso/pid-controlled-espresso-machine

a PID controlled espresso machine for USD$299. I'd be pretty tempted if I didn't have a machine already.

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#557965 14-Dec-2011 16:17

Sancho:
NZtechfreak:
MartinGZ: So much coffee being drunk!!

So Sancho wants a great ristretto. (Now hands up who know what that is without googling it?)

Would have thought most here know what a ristretto is?

If you want a decent ristretto then I think that ramps the required price of the machine up quite a bit, due in no small part to the reason you mention - milk had hide a lot of ills.

You an E61 machine is required?

I think if ristrettos are that important to you personally then you are definitely getting into that territory.

RE: That really cheap espresso machine - saw that via Gizmodo - looks interesting!

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#557975 14-Dec-2011 16:55

langers1972: How much are the capsules for the Nespresso and where do you get them? I'm a bit worried about tying myself to a specific brand in case the price skyrockets/supply issues etc. Am I worrying too much?

Worrying too much.
System has been around now for a number of years (I've used them for almost 9) and it is marketed over a number of Branded machines worldwide.

Pricewise they have to compete with everything else out there.
Supplywise it's all been online ordering for a long while here, but with a store or two about it just gives you more options.

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#557994 14-Dec-2011 17:45

Sancho: IS the Vibiemme Domobar Super a total overkill for making 1 short black most of the time :| there are a few at good used prices but it looks like a very large tank etc to be heating...

It depends on whether you can justify things, and whether you think it is worth it I guess. My home setup has been a La Marzocco GS/3 with a Mazzer Kony-E. I tend to drink one, maybe two coffees a day usually at night so not a whole lot given what the machine is rated for. A work environment may be a bit different though - usually the higher end machines will likely last longer and may be easier to fix and service when/if they break.

With most machines from the Rancilio Silvia and up (Domobar, Rocket etc), you're likely looking at a decent preheating time of at least 30 minutes. Sometimes quicker depending on what you do. I usually don't start making my espresso until at least 30-60 minutes of letting the machine get to temperature. If you do get a machine in this range, then you might put it on a timer or something. Most of these machines have low water cut off switches if they have an internal water tank to save the boiler/element from burning out (especially a worry if it is on a timer).

Ristretto wise, I think you can make ristrettos on cheaper machines (sub $300 type) so long as you have good fresh beans and a good grinder. But using a higher end machine like a E61 type unit usually gives you better reproducibility and consistency that the cheaper machines probably don't give.

But I do think a good grinder should be at the top of your list as well as a good source of fresh beans.

Yann (who is off to try some of the Coffee Supreme Panama La Esmeralda Geisha beans he just picked up!)

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#559479 19-Dec-2011 10:51

So who went out and bought something after reading this thread?
I have my eye on either a Citiz with Milk or a Latissima. Leaning towards the Citiz. Wish there was a dedicated store here in Nelson I could visit though. Went to Noel Leemings here yesterday and couldn't get past the salesmans sales speak to find out the real difference between them.

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