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Reply # 619857 4-May-2012 22:10
I don't know; they said they thought of all the possibilities at the time. I imagine they would have thought of post numbers though, if they commonly have 6 digits, and especially as that's not far from where Tracey was found. I have asked the police about the caller's accent; they said they would check to see if there's anything about in on the call record, and let me know.

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Reply # 619875 4-May-2012 22:35
I thought there was no question now as to who the main suspect is. Is his military service number 126040, and is it tattooed on his arm?

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Reply # 620728 7-May-2012 00:03
Hi Skolink, The police say he is not a suspect. I've just written a long reply to you but it doesn't seem to have gone through, for some reason. I'll have another go :) Last year 2 police officers were assigned to Tracey's case full time, as they had received some 'promising' leads (their words, not mine). Things seemed to be going well; they had planned to meet with some senior officers, to discuss whether to move forward or not. Then, late last year, that poor security guard was murdered and the officers were taken off Tracey's case, to work on that one. In February this year further new leads came in, but I have been informed that it will be several months before anyone will be free to work on Tracey's case again. If there were no new leads, my family and I would find it easier to accept the fact that the police will never catch Tracey's murderer. But people are still contacting the police with information; some old, some new. It's frustrating to know that this information can't be followed up because of a lack of resources.

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Reply # 767869 22-Feb-2013 19:43
The NZ Herald ran the story again yesterday 21 feb 2013... Which got me wondering... Why did the mystery caller say he would ring back on the 30th, 8 days later? as if he was going away and would not be near a phone untill then. The number 126040...Could he be working on a boat/ship. (Ships registered in New Zealand under registration type Part A, have an official number which is usually a six digit number, eg 123456.) Part A registration is mainly for larger commercial vessels. I wonder if the police searched the ships registry to see if maybe the number matches? The program sensing murder said … he’s got dirty fingers … grease … ( ships mechanic?)

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Reply # 772488 1-Mar-2013 21:53
Hi there, Read the story in the Herald. My thoughts on the number lean towards PO Box as OP mentioned. Is there anything I can offer in terms of time to help you in finding your sister's killer? If so please let me know. Some ideas: - OIA requests (not sure if you can do these from outside the country or if you would need them in this case....but who knows?) - looking up stuff in library - anything else a local based NZer can do more easily than someone online (?!) Probably you have everything covered but thought I'd offer anyway since you are out of the country and as you say police are under resourced.

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Reply # 772490 1-Mar-2013 21:57
edoc: The NZ Herald ran the story again yesterday 21 feb 2013... Which got me wondering... Why did the mystery caller say he would ring back on the 30th, 8 days later? as if he was going away and would not be near a phone untill then. The number 126040...Could he be working on a boat/ship. (Ships registered in New Zealand under registration type Part A, have an official number which is usually a six digit number, eg 123456.) Part A registration is mainly for larger commercial vessels. I wonder if the police searched the ships registry to see if maybe the number matches? The program sensing murder said … he’s got dirty fingers … grease … ( ships mechanic?) Good thinking edoc! (although I don't like psychics myself and dread to think what it must be like for a loved one clinging to hope that the psychic provides a breakthrough...ugh)

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Reply # 773985 3-Mar-2013 20:35
Totally agree with you MsBounty! re - the credibility of the source a psychic claims, to obtain their information. However, the source is really irrelevant The real show opperates in the understanding that a psychotic mind is deluded in the paranormal... thus to expose... requires. one to play the devils advocate.

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Reply # 775638 6-Mar-2013 12:53
edoc: re - the credibility of the source a psychic claims, to obtain their information. However, the source is really irrelevant I was a member of the Sensing Murder forums back in the day as one of the token sceptics. Things got pretty ugly there and Kelvin showed his true colours on several occasions. Most of the sceptics were of the opinion that there collusion between only a handful of Ninox staff and the psychics themselves.... most of the information coming from news and people involved in the case. Of course we can't prove it but Occam's Razor leaves this as the best explanation. *My very metal Doctor Who theme*

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Reply # 778289 12-Mar-2013 06:34
Thanks for your offer of help Ms Bounty, and thanks to everyone else who has come up with ideas and suggestions about the number. I am more than happy for anyone to help out if they think they might be able to; even if it's just a case of contacting Henderson police and telling them about your theories. The officer in charge of Tracey's case is called Murray Free. Jared Savage, the journalist from the Herald, keeps in touch with me and asks every year if I'm happy to do an interview with him. I really appreciate him keeping Tracey's case in the public eye. I was pretty shocked this year, reading about the other unsolved cases over there. I remember reading a couple of years ago that John Key was going to put over 600 more police officers on the street; did he ever do that?

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Reply # 778290 12-Mar-2013 06:41
In repsonse to Buring Beard: I think there must have been collusion, too. Mind you, they did pick pretty high-profile cases; surely the psychics must have had some knowledge of the cases, especially the ones from NZ? A couple of years ago I posted something on the sensing murder site about Kelvin; a few people commented on it and he wasn't too happy to say the least; he really let rip. It resulted in him being hammered by pretty much everyone who replied- and lots of people did. He withdrew his post but it was too late by then as some people had copied and pasted it. SM ended up shutting the page down.

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Reply # 778291 12-Mar-2013 06:42
ooops sorry- Burning, not Buring :)

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Reply # 778306 12-Mar-2013 07:40
MsBounty: Hi MsBounty, this one looks like something you can action in NZ. It is free to call the shipping registry and there is no charge for verbal information. I'd suggest contacting Debiarbi before publishing any result: edoc: The number 126040...Could he be working on a boat/ship. (Ships registered in New Zealand under registration type Part A, have an official number which is usually a six digit number, eg 123456.) Part A registration is mainly for larger commercial vessels.I wonder if the police searched the ships registry to see if maybe the number matches?

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Reply # 778394 12-Mar-2013 10:38
Debiarbi: In repsonse to Buring Beard: I think there must have been collusion, too. Mind you, they did pick pretty high-profile cases; surely the psychics must have had some knowledge of the cases, especially the ones from NZ? A couple of years ago I posted something on the sensing murder site about Kelvin; a few people commented on it and he wasn't too happy to say the least; he really let rip. It resulted in him being hammered by pretty much everyone who replied- and lots of people did. He withdrew his post but it was too late by then as some people had copied and pasted it. SM ended up shutting the page down. I think I remember that. I saw lots of his late night rants and should have copied them, because they disappeared pretty quickly. Once the allegations of sleazy behaviour on his "spiritual retreats" started flowing then it really turned to custard. *My very metal Doctor Who theme*

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Reply # 778425 12-Mar-2013 11:02
Debiarbi: I don't know; they said they thought of all the possibilities at the time. I imagine they would have thought of post numbers though, if they commonly have 6 digits, and especially as that's not far from where Tracey was found. I have asked the police about the caller's accent; they said they would check to see if there's anything about in on the call record, and let me know. wow didn't know you could just ring the police and ask these questions!

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Reply # 778578 12-Mar-2013 15:06
At face value that seems like a silly comment. You probably could not ask question like that joker97. Maybe you did not read the entire thread. Debiarbi is the victims sister.

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