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  Reply # 1727375 27-Feb-2017 21:26
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Before you were on 17a, now you are on 8b. wait for DLM to do its thing, line looks okay to go to 17a.





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  Reply # 1728511 1-Mar-2017 20:32
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I moved into my house in June and got VDSL with Bigpipe. Vigor 130 bridged to R7000. No master filter but I'm pretty sure only one jack is connected up - no dial tone or modem sync on any of the others in the house. I originally synced at 49/9, which improved slightly to 50/10 after about a week and stayed there.

 

About two months ago I noticed that my sync had dropped a bit, to around 48/5. I was busy with other stuff and chalked it up to the vagaries of VDSL.

 

This weekend I noticed the net was very slow and checked the modem stats - it was 45mbps down and 78kbps (no typo) up!

 

After a reboot it returned to about 48/3, which improved to 48/7 after about a day. I thought it was all sorted. I then did a large upload and noticed after an hour that the speed was dropping... checked sync and it was down to 2.5.

 

Tonight I've checked it and the stats are the following:

 

 

Full stats from SSH:
---------------------- ATU-R Info (hw: annex A, f/w: annex A/B/C) -----------
Running Mode : 8B State : SHOWTIME
DS Actual Rate : 44092000 bps US Actual Rate : 1368000 bps
DS Attainable Rate : 44113040 bps US Attainable Rate : 7008000 bps
DS Path Mode : Interleave US Path Mode : Interleave
DS Interleave Depth : 0 US Interleave Depth : 0
NE Current Attenuation : 11 dB Cur SNR Margin : 10 dB
DS actual PSD : -17. 0 dB US actual PSD : 14. 8 dB
NE CRC Count : 0 FE CRC Count : 0
NE ES Count : 0 FE ES Count : 0
Xdsl Reset Times : 0 Xdsl Link Times : 4
ITU Version[0] : b5004946 ITU Version[1] : 544e0000
VDSL Firmware Version : 05-04-08-00-00-06
Power Management Mode : DSL_G997_PMS_L0
Test Mode : DISABLE
-------------------------------- ATU-C Info ---------------------------------
Far Current Attenuation : 0 dB Far SNR Margin : 25 dB
CO ITU Version[0] : b500494b CO ITU Version[1] : 4e530001
DSLAM CHIPSET VENDOR : < IKNS >

 

 

 

What is going on with my net? I should add that I was a bit disappointed in 50/10 when I moved in, as the cabinet is just a couple of hundred metres away and I can see on Chorus SAT that some of my neighbours sync at 60+ mbps. Do I have a wiring issue?


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  Reply # 1728525 1-Mar-2017 21:21
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Possibly look at a filter installation, i would ask BP to give your specturm a quick look and see if they cant see any missing flaws.

 

 





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  Reply # 1728600 2-Mar-2017 07:03
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hio77:

 

Possibly look at a filter installation, i would ask BP to give your specturm a quick look and see if they cant see any missing flaws.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, will do. Have rebooted the modem to get a baseline (now 48/8), will lodge a ticket with Bigpipe and get them to check on it as the sync drops.


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  Reply # 1729180 2-Mar-2017 22:49
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allio:

 

hio77:

 

Possibly look at a filter installation, i would ask BP to give your specturm a quick look and see if they cant see any missing flaws.

 

 

 

 

Thanks, will do. Have rebooted the modem to get a baseline (now 48/8), will lodge a ticket with Bigpipe and get them to check on it as the sync drops.

 

 

 

 

If its monetarily dropping out, this may be a difficult one to keep an eye on.

 

 

 

How consistently does it drop to 1mbit upload? A line quality test over a period of time would need to be ran covering this change in the system to really be able to get it looked at.





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  Reply # 1734626 11-Mar-2017 01:05
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Just going to drop this here now that chorus allow public viewing... https://sp.chorus.co.nz/news/fibre-and-vdsl's-roadmap

 

 

 

in othernews for me, i now that VDSL running here and intend on having a bit of fun with it over the coming months. the excitement is back!! 





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  Reply # 1734628 11-Mar-2017 01:22
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Nice find Hio77!


I notice they're talking about 10G speeds in the document on that page, I wonder if that is backhaul or end user connect speeds tho?


BTW, you're doing a damn fine job of maintaining this thread! :)


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  Reply # 1734630 11-Mar-2017 01:28
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find, more like it is things i can actually post without being in any sort of grey area. 

 

 

 

In terms of chorus allowing customers to keep RSP's honest, its a great step.

 

10G will obviously be via 10GPON which has always been a logical upgrade at some point.





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  Reply # 1734721 11-Mar-2017 11:38
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hio77:

 

How consistently does it drop to 1mbit upload? A line quality test over a period of time would need to be ran covering this change in the system to really be able to get it looked at.

 

 

It was dropping pretty consistently over the course of 2-3 days. Heavy upload made it happen faster - a couple of hours of linespeed uploading was enough.

 

I contacted Bigpipe and they had me go through all the standard troubleshooting steps before they'd do much analysis. One of them was replacing the phone cable connecting the modem to the wall jack. I thought this was a load of bollocks but decided to humour them so they'd get on and test my line. Bought and plugged in a new phone cable about 5 days ago and sync has been absolutely rock solid at 45/8 since. Too soon to conclude the problem is fixed, but... huh.

 

It's not like I was using a ratty phone cable before - it was the one that came in the box with the brand new Vigor 130!


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  Reply # 1734742 11-Mar-2017 12:28
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allio:

 

hio77:

 

How consistently does it drop to 1mbit upload? A line quality test over a period of time would need to be ran covering this change in the system to really be able to get it looked at.

 

 

It was dropping pretty consistently over the course of 2-3 days. Heavy upload made it happen faster - a couple of hours of linespeed uploading was enough.

 

I contacted Bigpipe and they had me go through all the standard troubleshooting steps before they'd do much analysis. One of them was replacing the phone cable connecting the modem to the wall jack. I thought this was a load of bollocks but decided to humour them so they'd get on and test my line. Bought and plugged in a new phone cable about 5 days ago and sync has been absolutely rock solid at 45/8 since. Too soon to conclude the problem is fixed, but... huh.

 

It's not like I was using a ratty phone cable before - it was the one that came in the box with the brand new Vigor 130!

 

 

cables can fail and cause issues.

 

 

 

There is a ton of usecases where we can detect that it is a failed phone cable possibly... takes a lot of detailed investigation to conclude that as you pointed out, if you are told its a failing phonecable it would sound like utter BS.





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  Reply # 1734761 11-Mar-2017 13:29
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I have had to re-crimp RJ45's often enough to get them to reliably link, so not unexpected that there could be issues with the cable. I have so many around here now that means its usually changed when I change router since I will get the other router all hooked up ready to go, powered on, booted etc and then swap the cables at the wall end to minimize my downtime. The draytek seems the best so far for holding onto my junky line compared to the fritz which would always end up slow. No problems after this last lot of rain that I know of, but I cant see the modems UI with this stupid unifi gateway since it doesnt pull an IP on the wan interface to let me manage it.





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  Reply # 1745351 21-Mar-2017 20:13
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Hello Geekzone /

 

ENTRY LEVEL LIFE SKILLS / WIRING 101  / BASIC CABLE AND HOW TO JACKPOINT PART 1 ASSESSMENT 1 

 

so ive had VDSL put on a couple weeks before ive moved in ,im hoping to redo all the wiring at some stage the house ill be living at  , so just thought id ask a few questions here before i started.

 

 Can i use a cat6 cable straight from the ETP and plug it directly into the router by punching in a bt plug in the end ? avoiding any use of BT wall mounted jackpoints ? is this recommended ?

 

Am i screwed because i should of done the re-wiring before the vdsl was activated ? will this impact my latency ? i am a gamer so this is kinda important to me.

 

 

 

from the router to the other parts of the house im going to run cat6 cables to wall mounted RJ45 jacks , where is the best place to get them ? trademe ? also does it matter that they are cat5e and im usings cat6 cables ? was thinking about getting something like this , where do you guys buy your stuff from ? ? http://www.trademe.co.nz/computers/cables-adaptors/networking/auction-1281761612.htm

 

 

 

where the hell do i find these things ? is there any other connectors that i could use instead ? or should i stick with the ones chorus use ? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also sorry for the shi***y image , but here is a pic of the line stats currently .

 


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  Reply # 1745354 21-Mar-2017 20:17
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You can use whatever termination you want really, Depending on the modem you may have a RJ45 DSL port even for running your cat6 cable into.

 

 

 

i'd run it to a RJ45 jack, use RJ11 Between the two.

 

The likes of Cable direct produce RJ45 -> RJ11 cables as well, these are a really clean way of doing it.





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  Reply # 1745373 21-Mar-2017 20:43
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hio77:

 

The likes of Cable direct produce RJ45 -> RJ11 cables as well, these are a really clean way of doing it.

 

 

rj45 to rj12 is more widely available these days


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  Reply # 1745433 21-Mar-2017 22:26
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seretonin:

 

where the hell do i find these things ? is there any other connectors that i could use instead ? or should i stick with the ones chorus use ?

 

 

 

 

Jaycar have them: https://www.jaycar.co.nz/crimp-wire-connectors-2-3-wire-pk-8/p/HP1214

 

If you have the tools to do cat 5/5e/6 termination then I recommend doing a run from the ETP to a wall plate.


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