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  # 700934 14-Oct-2012 12:27
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freitasm: Probably safer to drink Mexican beer made with Mexican water than Chinese beer with their water. The polution in some places there is just incredible ;)



It's no so much the Chinese water - it's the formaldehyde they used to add to the beer!

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Maybe those in NZ with concerns about privacy or espionage ought to be more concerned about the US Patriot Act, which, in simple terms, makes anything stored on servers located on US soil accessible to the US govt.

Or is that those who are worried trust the US not to mis-use that information in any way, but don't trust the Chinese to do the same?




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as the old adage goes if you don't want others to know what your putting online then use strong encryption simple as that

I personally don't put anything online that I don't want/care that the whole world to knows everything else is stored encrypted

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It's not like Huawei are a new thing in NZ. A good chunk of Vodafone's mobile 3G hardware for the past few years or so in NZ has been rebranded Huawei gear.

All governments are corrupt to a certain extent, just the amount and the publicity thereof varies.




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stevenz: It's not like Huawei are a new thing in NZ. A good chunk of Vodafone's mobile 3G hardware for the past few years or so in NZ has been rebranded Huawei gear.

All governments are corrupt to a certain extent, just the amount and the publicity thereof varies.


VFNZ uses Nokia Siemens networks on it's mobile network.

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  # 701620 15-Oct-2012 17:08
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ajw:
stevenz: It's not like Huawei are a new thing in NZ. A good chunk of Vodafone's mobile 3G hardware for the past few years or so in NZ has been rebranded Huawei gear.

All governments are corrupt to a certain extent, just the amount and the publicity thereof varies.


VFNZ uses Nokia Siemens networks on it's mobile network.


I meant the consumer level stuff.




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  # 701676 15-Oct-2012 18:19
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floydbloke: Maybe those in NZ with concerns about privacy or espionage ought to be more concerned about the US Patriot Act, which, in simple terms, makes anything stored on servers located on US soil accessible to the US govt.

Or is that those who are worried trust the US not to mis-use that information in any way, but don't trust the Chinese to do the same?


Not only servers located on US soil, but also servers of US companies on any soil I believe.

Eg. Google might store your gmails on a server in Australia, but if the US Govt wants them they simply have to ask Google US to provide them by simply citing the Patriot Act.




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  # 702026 16-Oct-2012 12:47
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floydbloke: Maybe those in NZ with concerns about privacy or espionage ought to be more concerned about the US Patriot Act, which, in simple terms, makes anything stored on servers located on US soil accessible to the US govt.

Or is that those who are worried trust the US not to mis-use that information in any way, but don't trust the Chinese to do the same?


Not only servers located on US soil, but also servers of US companies on any soil I believe.

Eg. Google might store your gmails on a server in Australia, but if the US Govt wants them they simply have to ask Google US to provide them by simply citing the Patriot Act.


Looks like you're right.  Not exactly an authoratative source but an extract from Wikipedia reads:

Wikipedia:
One of the most controversial aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act is in title V, and relates to National Security Letters (NSLs). An NSL is a form of administrative subpoena used by the FBI, and reportedly by other U.S. government agencies including the CIA and the Department of Defense (DoD). It is a demand letter issued to a particular entity or organization to turn over various records and data pertaining to individuals. They require no probable cause or judicial oversight and also contain a gag order, preventing the recipient of the letter from disclosing that the letter was ever issued.





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