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  #58585 23-Jan-2007 13:30
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Come to Christchurch and even Wellington and you can see that the TCL "fat ugly" cable isn't that fat at all.. it is no fatter than Telecom's overhead cable.

Anyway, I'm blissful enough to have TCL cable (underground) in Christchurch... See ya all later, eat my internet dust... *hehe* *VRrrroooooom*




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  #58586 23-Jan-2007 13:33
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I'm coming down to Wellie soon, and I'll do just that - take some pics of the "fat ugly cable" and post them.




 
 
 
 


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  #58604 23-Jan-2007 14:44
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Canada
Compare speeds,population density and land area to New Zealand .
Internet Usage Statistics:
21,900,000 Internet users as of December, 2005, 67.9% of the population, according to the Computer Industry Almanac.
Latest Population Estimate:
32,251,238 population estimate for 2006, according to world-gazetteer.
Country Area (Size):
9,976,137 sq km ( 3,850,789 square miles) - Pop. Density is 3 persons per sq km.

About 50% who accessed the Internet at home did so using a cable line connected to a computer, while 44% used a telephone line connected to a computer.

However, of the group that used a telephone line, about 59% reported it was a high-speed connection (cable Internet service providers typically offer a range of package options with various speeds, all faster than conventional dial-up service).
Uncapped 6.0Mbps download and 800Kbps upload
$51.95 Canadian Monthly (62.97 NZ) plus $3.00 modem rental or $99.95 modem purchase plus taxes. This also is capable of full tv coverage and phone line.
The cable is 8mm or less. Hard to see 10m in the air amoungst the other wires and it would go underground where there were no poles and as other lines are buried.



 
                                                  


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#58625 23-Jan-2007 16:20
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I have "fat ugly cable" right infront of me, just out my window (Welly). I'll take some pix as soon as my camera batterys charge Laughing

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  #58656 23-Jan-2007 20:39

Jama: Yes and the Korean government provided US$2b in funding for the high capacity backbone along with US$1b in soft loans to address the rural sector.


Given the results of the investment, don´t you think that´s where about US$2b of New Zealand´s surplus should go? I certainly do.

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  #58663 23-Jan-2007 21:57
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I guess you could say that, but New Zealand has a lot larger land space as stated in this topic, and for New Zealand to get results like they have in South Korea a lot more money will have to be spent that just the $2B. Also, South Korea knew they were going to have a lot more customers compared to New Zealand once it is done due to the population density, so they will be able to pay off the cost of this investment a lot quicker than New Zealand will ever be able to.

Don't get me wrong, I would love the internet in New Zealand to be like that, but it is going to take time due to our geographical situation. My 2c.

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  #58814 25-Jan-2007 12:57
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Here goes a picture of the various cables strung out down my street.  Correct me if I've mis-labeled them.



There seems to be a doubling-up of TCL cable - I don't know if this is normal.  It's not particularly attractive, but given that there were power and Telecom cables there before TCL did their bit, I don't think it really matters.  I'm happy to have cable internet.


 
 
 
 


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  #58816 25-Jan-2007 13:18
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Well, the overhead electricity cable delivering power to my house is fatter than the TCL ones in your picture.

Here's the Google Cache version of the Herald story (original one not available on their site).

Note the talk about undergrounding...






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  #58817 25-Jan-2007 13:30
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Makes sense to me - they were going to use poles where there were power lines anyway and bury the cable where there were underground power cables.  Don't know how anyone could complain about that, but the Auckland councils aren't exactly renowned for their good decisions.

The power cables down my street are about the same width as TCL, but the TCL cable seems to be doubled up for some reason.  I don't think this happens on every street - I'm not really a "cable-spotter" :-)


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  #58818 25-Jan-2007 13:32
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And heres mine:



It's so far up a pole I can't see it without looking up. There are trees everywhere too...

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  #59198 30-Jan-2007 00:20
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Does anyone know if Korea has a Great Firewall? I have heard of people saying that you can have super fast access to information that you generally dont want, compared to slower speed access to information that you do want / slower access to free information.

I hear this argument used to describe the difference between western countries and places like korea. Anyone know more about this and can confirm or deny?




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#59211 30-Jan-2007 08:34
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I don't think South Korea has one... North Korea probably doesn't have any internet access/limited access so thats a different story.

China does however. Found that out the hardway when Wikipedia and BBC got banned.




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  #59219 30-Jan-2007 09:34
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North Korea only has Dial Up.....no broadband what so ever and yes the traffic for every connection is monitored.....

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