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  Reply # 789247 29-Mar-2013 13:52
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Not Necessarily.

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  Reply # 789260 29-Mar-2013 14:12
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pjays: Where is SPN/C? Certainly been alot of work on that cabinet beside the dairy there over the last week or so?



SPN/A - as discribed before
SPN/B - Cnr Days and Collins Rds
SPN/C - Cnr Days and Powells Rds
SPN/F - Cnr Bethels and Swamp Rds

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  Reply # 789274 29-Mar-2013 14:36
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I did see a Chorus wagon by SPN/A, but just thought they were sorting out connections for the new subdivision by Springston Rugby Club/domain on Ellesmere Junction Road. I should have stopped to ask. Oh well it will be a nice surprise if it has got some faster kit. Even the Telecom guy I've been conversing with was surprised it had not been upgraded as the fiber passes right by it, he was saying mostly they're finding the cabinets waiting for an upgrade as usually because they need fiber trenched to them.




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  Reply # 789279 29-Mar-2013 14:51
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InstallerUFB:
pjays: Where is SPN/C? Certainly been alot of work on that cabinet beside the dairy there over the last week or so?

SPN/A - as discribed before
SPN/B - Cnr Days and Collins Rds
SPN/C - Cnr Days and Powells Rds
SPN/F - Cnr Bethels and Swamp Rds

And looks like Springston Exchange (SPN) is a couple of hundred metres South from corner Leeston/Powells Rds.  Are you around there optrex?  If so sounds like you and diverchris are going to get an updgrade.  But looking at http://chorus.co.nz/maps doesn't like that will reach the OP.

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  Reply # 789283 29-Mar-2013 15:03
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Yes, I think the SPN exchange address is 229 Leeston Road, if that helps.

Strange if you try and search for any of the SPN A/B/C/F cabinets on the Chorus website (http://www.chorus.co.nz/service-availability-tool) they don't exist?

Also I find the new Chorus Network Capability Map very vague, as it doesn't list any of the cabinets/exchanges with their specs/proposed update dates. Or it could be me not understanding it.



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  Reply # 789295 29-Mar-2013 15:53
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So... if I am on SPN/C (as slingshot have told me) then if that gets upgraded, should this make a difference for folks like me who are some distance from the exchange. At the moment the low speed in the day becomes unusable at night which is a capacity issue. I am not close to take advantage of the improvements when the occur, but assuming that some will, should this not reduce the capacity for the further away ADSL1 connections like me?

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  Reply # 789298 29-Mar-2013 16:00
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Hi Pjays,

All things being equal, yes, and I'm presuming alot, the upgrade should be at least to ADSL2+ which increases the range of copper broadband and ups the speed, so if you get ADSL1 ok at the mo, your speed will increase, also the upgrade should include connection to the fiber network so you won't "feel" that you are sharing the connection with your neighbours, the "kids on the computer" evening slowdown.

For you the increase to the cabinet backbone is the most important.

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  Reply # 789639 30-Mar-2013 14:16
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pjays: So... if I am on SPN/C (as slingshot have told me) then if that gets upgraded, should this make a difference for folks like me who are some distance from the exchange. At the moment the low speed in the day becomes unusable at night which is a capacity issue. I am not close to take advantage of the improvements when the occur, but assuming that some will, should this not reduce the capacity for the further away ADSL1 connections like me?

Put your address into chorus/maps to confirm what you'll get.



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  Reply # 789664 30-Mar-2013 16:35
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I have put my address into chorus/maps and our property (Bethels Rd) is right on the edge - from where it turns from (lightest) yellow to white.. i.e no coverage. But our connection point from the road is on the corner of the section where it is in the yellow zone - just. I have tried to discuss with Chorus exactly what this means - especially since we have broadband (of sorts) now and a couple of years ago we could get around 3mbs - but really have not had anything helpful from them. So am hoping that when SPN/C is upgraded we will get some benefit. But, really unsure as where we are at to be honest..

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  Reply # 790149 1-Apr-2013 11:02
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Hi Peter,

Sorry if I sound a little frustrated, but all I can say is you have enough information from public Chorus info and the knowledgeable people on this thread to understand your situation. The only information that seems to be misleading is that from Slingshot and to a lesser extent Snap.

1) You have said you are on Bethels Rd. From the official Chorus map you are right on the edge of the "yellow" Rural BB zone which is between the 1 - 5Mbps sync rate. The characteristics of ADSL is the more people using ADSL on a shared copper cable (ie: 50 pair cable etc), the lower all speeds will get, especially at the longest distances due to the interference in the cable pair, thus why your speeds may have dropped.

2) You are not on in the zone for SPN/C (you can see on the RBI layer of the map), that doesn't cover Bethels Rd at all. It will have no improvement on your location.

3) Slingshot have given misleading info IMHO and I'd be asking for them to explain why what they are saying does not match the Chorus map. Snap has said there is no RBI in the area, which is obviously wrong too.

4) Hopefully if the Exchange you are fed off is being upgraded to Fibre and an ISAM (possible given the RBI work going on in the area) then this may improve your throughput and any possible congestion issues.

5) But this doesn't help your connection speed, which from the limited info offered appears to be the issue. I'd suggest you do the normal Slow connection speed trouble shooting (posting line stats here etc), investigate a splitter etc which may help your connect speed and reliability.

6) If this doesn't improve thing enough, really the only option is Wireless.



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  Reply # 790430 2-Apr-2013 08:29
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Hi Thanks for this.

Appreciate that as far as the slow connection speed goes, best solution will be to go with a master splitter. One thing that I have noticed is that the connection speed to the exchange shown in the Fritzbox varies constantly. As high as 2.4 kbits/s and as low as 900. I assume that this is the maximum attainable speed based upon the connection.
Just wondering if there is a logical reason for such a variance?

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  Reply # 790667 2-Apr-2013 13:43
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Hi All,

Just a quick update with regard to SPN/A, I have just received an email from Chorus confirming the RBI upgrade is planned for the end of April.

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  Reply # 791843 2-Apr-2013 18:16
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pjays: Hi Thanks for this.

Appreciate that as far as the slow connection speed goes, best solution will be to go with a master splitter. One thing that I have noticed is that the connection speed to the exchange shown in the Fritzbox varies constantly. As high as 2.4 kbits/s and as low as 900. I assume that this is the maximum attainable speed based upon the connection.
Just wondering if there is a logical reason for such a variance?

- thanks


The attainable speed will vary throughout the day as noise on the line varies. Other people's modems on the same cable bundle will inject a certain amount of noise in to your line, and this will vary with their use.

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  Reply # 795891 9-Apr-2013 22:44
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pjamieson:
InstallerUFB:
pjays: Where is SPN/C? Certainly been alot of work on that cabinet beside the dairy there over the last week or so?

SPN/A - as discribed before
SPN/B - Cnr Days and Collins Rds
SPN/C - Cnr Days and Powells Rds
SPN/F - Cnr Bethels and Swamp Rds

And looks like Springston Exchange (SPN) is a couple of hundred metres South from corner Leeston/Powells Rds.  Are you around there optrex?  If so sounds like you and diverchris are going to get an updgrade.  But looking at http://chorus.co.nz/maps doesn't like that will reach the OP.


Bugger, yes I am around there, but the confirmation of the location of SPN is not good news for me. My provider (SNAP) has insisted I was on SPN/A and during one phone call they even confirmed I was just over 2km away from it. Chorus seem to think I am on RBI and my only option is wifi - even when I tell them I am on ADSL at the moment  they say I'm not.

However I called last night to get confirmation and was told I was on SPN and not SPN/A as previously advised, so that means its just a few hundred meters from me and is not part of the upgrade, although I'm not sure anyone really knows whats going on as I"ve had so much conflicting info. So depending who I ring I'm either on SPN, SPN/A or wifi unless by some freak of nature I happen to be on the right side of the road I cant see me benefitting from this.

I noticed a chorus van putting the install in today at SPN/A so it wont be far away time wise. I can confirm VDSL will be offered.

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  Reply # 795915 10-Apr-2013 00:02
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Hi Optrex,

Looking at the cabinet feed info, SPN/A is fiber fed from SPN (the exchange). No guarantees (as I'v only been getting info on SPN/A), but I'm sure SPN is also being upgraded.

Voyager (ISP) tech spoke to Chorus and they have this Friday as the RBI upgrade live date.

Regards
Chris

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