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Master Geek

Topic # 115238 18-Mar-2013 22:04
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Just had a trial install of UFB today for my house in the Auckland suburbs.
Trial is for World Exchange to test out various install options and heres how it goes...

2 guys and a guy learning the ropes turn up at 8:45am. establish a few things about install and get cut and drill disclaimer
signed. Then they drive off to the end of the road where the fibre box is and I don't really see them for a couple of hours apart from occassional visits to do something in the pit by the foorpath outside my house. As the house was built in late 90's it had a Telecoms wonderous coax TV cables outside the house so this is what the installers use to draw the fibre down.

Guys from World Exchange drive up about 11am and deliver the router for the install and explain to Chorus guys how to setup (i.e. plug in and wait)
By lunch they have drawn the fibre through the duct and are looking at then drawing it into the cavit space where my phone wire lives. the guys wiring the house originally went for aesthetics over ease of fixing and put the Telecom wires up a connduit to inside the wall cavity (must have been before the GIB went on) and then out through hole in brick to official Telecom demarc box on outside). For those thinking of UFB install have a look at where the existing Telecom wires go as may be more difficult than you think to get at wires.

After lunch the hybrid cable from the junction outside to the inside ONT position (in my case a cabinet installed by my electrician in a recent house extension). The cable then got spliced to the white inside cable and this poked through hole in the ceiling into the cabinet in garage. To do this once again they use the existing cable from Telecom phone to pull the fibre up inside the wall then pull back and reattach again outside.
The idea of the hybrid I believe is to go to the ONT then the copper part is plugged into the phone socket in ONT or router (in my case) and then attached to outside demarc box to the existing Telecom cable inside the house hence ONT now powering the home phone network.

Well the cabinet that was chosen by my electrician was a little small but the UFB site mentions talking to your installer or
electrician about install needs and that is what I did but cabinet needed to be longer to fit all the kit really.

So connector to ONT spliced to inside hybrid cable and then the install inside the cabinet started. Problem - cabinet inset into wall between uprights and then had 10mm space behind then Gib on other side of wall. ONT clip in connector needs flat screw attachment behing where the ONT will clip in. After 2 small holes in wall on other side we removed the screws and used combination of zip tie and 3 3M command strips to secure to inside of cabinet (once again if you have a cabinet for install have a look at how much space or get installer to use screws into the metal not through the existing holes)
That done we then screw with metal drill screws the router clip to inside of cabinet and attach to the ONT and wait for power up.
Unfortunately router works but not talking to network due to Chorus not supplying an initial DHCP IP address I think so could not provision router and connect to broadband. Frown

All together it took till 5pm to get this far with 2.5 guys - just over 8 hours.
This should have been an easier install (guys reckon their easiest install was 4 hours x 2 guys).

What went wrong then?
- Took ages to draw fibre from fibre cabinet - can't speed that really
- Would have probably been quicker with a quick overview before install to evaluate problems and arrive with solutions intact
- More attachment options might speed install for ONT to various places. Would have been easier to attach to a wall as drill then clip in.

Overall the install takes ages but could be partially done by a normall electrician or installer to allow Chorus guys to get fibre
to outside connection then splice outside and inside.

Have some pictures on a Picasa link to look at.


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  Reply # 783790 19-Mar-2013 09:51
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Changed photos to Link only from a public offering

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  Reply # 783865 19-Mar-2013 12:38
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Hello. Your install looks good.Smile

Except that now it wants me to sign in to Google+ which I don't use, to see any pics.



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  Reply # 783883 19-Mar-2013 12:56
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Pics were working last night but now give me a 403 error.

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  Reply # 783894 19-Mar-2013 13:13
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Picasa used to be great as could share via link rather than making it all searchable:

try this link


Yep that works OK - not that they are great pictures but at least gives some idea of what should have been a reasonably easy install.
Guess the newer sub-divisions might be easier.

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  Reply # 783898 19-Mar-2013 13:19
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Yeah that works again now :)

Thankfully my copper cable is overhead and I can see exactly where it enters the garage and how it gets to my modem so replacing it won't be too difficult. It's just the waiting game that's annoying; no fibre in my street yet and my current ISP doesn't offer it.

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  Reply # 783929 19-Mar-2013 14:02
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Talking to some ISP guys they wonder if for some people it might be a lot more attainable to get VDSL.

VDSL only requires a Master filter installed and availability in your area. No digging, pulling fibre through coduits or splicing and get good speeds. I am getting the 30 mbps down / 10mbps up fibre and it's quite fast as opposed to ADSL but since the guys who installed for my house took 8 hours x 2 guys = charge out rate maybe $50 per hour (probably low) that is $800 with no kit supplied.
Not sure if Chorus is going to be able to fund everyone to UFB so not sure about VDSL costs for ISP or Chorus but might be a better option as none of the expensive and time consuming costs


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  Reply # 784042 19-Mar-2013 18:40
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is that a 0+2 in the pit!

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  Reply # 784083 19-Mar-2013 20:26
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matt45: is that a 0+2 in the pit!

Not sure what that is. Bits from pit were a coax wired telecom tv project that got canned by commerce commission I was told.


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