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ancalag0n

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#115934 12-Apr-2013 14:30
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Hi guys, I’m planning on getting UFB to my house once the fibre laying has been completed in the street, Chorus say this will be done by May. As part of this I want to cable Cat6 and some Coaxial cable throughout the house in various rooms. I’ve got an old network cabinet from a contact that I plan on putting the basement of the property.

The house is located on a corner section and currently they’ve put the fibre along the other side of the road opposite the driveway. I’m assuming that they’ll be putting one of those green road side boxes outside the property somewhere, between two sections?.

Fig. This is the location of the property with an overlay of where the walls are in the basement.

I plan on:

  1. Putting the network cabinet in the basement where the blue box is above (see Fig.)
  2. Running Cat6 and Coaxial for the TV broadcast (free view etc), throughout the house
  3. Moving the existing POTS phone cabling into the network cabinet so that I can move the phones throughout the house via Cat6 and then use VoIP later on
    1. Or should I just let the installer move the existing phone network cabling into the ONT (POTS1 port)
  4. Terminating everything at the network cabinet
    1. There is already power in that room where the cabinet is so I don’t need to worry about that
Before I do go to the effort of installing the network cabinet, network cabling, coaxial cabling the entire house. I wanted to know if I can tell the installer where I would like star network and ONT located in the property? (It would be about 10-15 metres from the wall where the garage is to the network cabinet)

I called both snap! and Chorus and they said it’s usually discussed with the installer before installation is done. I just don’t want to spend money and then be told by the installer on the day that “no, we won’t run the fibre to your network cabinet and place the ONT etc there”.

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  #798439 12-Apr-2013 14:38
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My installation was done by Chorus. They were very obliging and were happy to put the ONT where I wanted. In my case there is a fibre run of about 14m to the ONT situated in my basement/under floor area.

Happy cable running!

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  #798473 12-Apr-2013 15:49
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if they wont put the ont in the basement you can just get them to put it near one of your ethernet ports and patch that to wherever it needs to go.





 
 
 
 


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  #798475 12-Apr-2013 15:51
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hamish225: if they wont put the ont in the basement you can just get them to put it near one of your ethernet ports and patch that to wherever it needs to go.


It's best to put everything in one place from a management perspective. Also helps with UPS etc.




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  #798496 12-Apr-2013 16:21
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ancalag0n: I’m assuming that they’ll be putting one of those green road side boxes outside the property somewhere, between two sections?


The green fibre optic pillar is normally placed right next to the old grey round copper junction thingy on the footpath, that services your house. This is how they did it outside my house:




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  #798497 12-Apr-2013 16:21
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linw: My installation was done by Chorus. They were very obliging and were happy to put the ONT where I wanted. In my case there is a fibre run of about 14m to the ONT situated in my basement/under floor area.

Happy cable running!
Good to know that they do put it where you request.

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  #798498 12-Apr-2013 16:23
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Zeon:
hamish225: if they wont put the ont in the basement you can just get them to put it near one of your ethernet ports and patch that to wherever it needs to go.


It's best to put everything in one place from a management perspective. Also helps with UPS etc.
Yep, that's precisely why I want to put it in that basement room, it's got power already there and my UPS will keep things up for a short time.

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  #798500 12-Apr-2013 16:25
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DarthKermit:
ancalag0n: I’m assuming that they’ll be putting one of those green road side boxes outside the property somewhere, between two sections?


The green fibre optic pillar is normally placed right next to the old grey round copper junction thingy on the footpath, that services your house. This is how they did it outside my house:
I'll look for one of those old grey round copper junctions when I get home tonight. From memory I think my phone is provided to the property via a pole on the street.

 
 
 
 


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  #798615 12-Apr-2013 21:57
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ancalag0n: I'll look for one of those old grey round copper junctions when I get home tonight. From memory I think my phone is provided to the property via a pole on the street.
Yes, there is no old grey round copper junction outside the property, the phone does come in via an overhead cable from a pole.

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  #798619 12-Apr-2013 22:17
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ancalag0n:
ancalag0n: I'll look for one of those old grey round copper junctions when I get home tonight. From memory I think my phone is provided to the property via a pole on the street.
Yes, there is no old grey round copper junction outside the property, the phone does come in via an overhead cable from a pole.


Oh man, you're probably boned then!
What ISP are you going with? If Telecom, they will refuse to install it, because of some RMA BS they only allow a single overhead cable and Telecom's UFB stuff requires a copper line still.


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  #798777 13-Apr-2013 14:33
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kyhwana2: Oh man, you're probably boned then!
What ISP are you going with? If Telecom, they will refuse to install it, because of some RMA BS they only allow a single overhead cable and Telecom's UFB stuff requires a copper line still.
A neighbour mentioned that they're looking to put the phone cables underneath the sidewalk, so I might have to wait until then before getting fibre. I'll just go ahead with the internal wiring and worry about the fibre later.

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kyhwana2: What ISP are you going with? If Telecom, they will refuse to install it, because of some RMA BS they only allow a single overhead cable and Telecom's UFB stuff requires a copper line still.


From what has been posted on the boards lately, it's not a Telecom-specific issue. Any LFC he might choose to use will run into this problem of not being allowed to have two overhead lines.




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  #799103 14-Apr-2013 11:09
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DarthKermit:
kyhwana2: What ISP are you going with? If Telecom, they will refuse to install it, because of some RMA BS they only allow a single overhead cable and Telecom's UFB stuff requires a copper line still.


From what has been posted on the boards lately, it's not a Telecom-specific issue. Any LFC he might choose to use will run into this problem of not being allowed to have two overhead lines.


I thought that it was specific to chorus, since their reading of the RMA is different from the other LFCs?
At least with the other non-Telecom RSP's, you get voip, so you don't need a copper line, where was Telecom is the only? RSP that requires you to still have copper.


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  #800018 16-Apr-2013 09:08
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kyhwana2:
DarthKermit:
kyhwana2: What ISP are you going with? If Telecom, they will refuse to install it, because of some RMA BS they only allow a single overhead cable and Telecom's UFB stuff requires a copper line still.


From what has been posted on the boards lately, it's not a Telecom-specific issue. Any LFC he might choose to use will run into this problem of not being allowed to have two overhead lines.


I thought that it was specific to chorus, since their reading of the RMA is different from the other LFCs?
At least with the other non-Telecom RSP's, you get voip, so you don't need a copper line, where was Telecom is the only? RSP that requires you to still have copper.
I'll probably choose snap! (my current DSL ISP) if they are offering the service in my area otherwise I'll see what other ISPs offer UFB.

I spoke to a Chorus technician (while he was fixing an unrelated phone problem on my property) yesterday about the fibre rollout in the area. I asked if they're going to put the copper into the sidewalk and he mentioned that they're in the process of replacing the telephone poles in the neighbourhood. They're doing this on a 5 year cycle so now I'm confused.

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  #800070 16-Apr-2013 10:39
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DarthKermit:
ancalag0n: I’m assuming that they’ll be putting one of those green road side boxes outside the property somewhere, between two sections?


The green fibre optic pillar is normally placed right next to the old grey round copper junction thingy on the footpath, that services your house. This is how they did it outside my house:


Are these green boxes used strictly just for UFB? I'm moving house in a week and there is one of these down the drive already but the house isn't hooked up.

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  #800119 16-Apr-2013 12:16
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Yes, only for UFB. The house won't be hooked up unless you or the previous owner have requested an installation.




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