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Topic # 116967 15-May-2013 10:36
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Chorus has finally decided to align the wholesale price of VDSL with their EUBA offering. They want to push customers getting higher speed connections for the same price as ADSL2+ in the aim to grow their appetite for fibre (when it will come).

Article from NZHerald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10883771

This is an interesting move from Chorus, do you think ISPs will reduce their VDSL pricing straight away?
Do you think this will be enough to get more people interested to use higher speed internet connections (VDSL2, GPON) or do you think most of the NZ population is not really interested to change anything to their internet connection yet?

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  Reply # 817953 15-May-2013 10:43
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I wonder if it will push Telecom into releasing a VDSL product?

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  Reply # 818904 15-May-2013 10:50
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trig42: I wonder if it will push Telecom into releasing a VDSL product?


They are already releasing a product, it won't speed it up though.

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  Reply # 818911 15-May-2013 10:58
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I certainly hope we'll have some announcements from ISPs soon ;-)

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  Reply # 818914 15-May-2013 10:59
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sidefx: I certainly hope we'll have some announcements from ISPs soon ;-)


Are you talking about the new pricing or just VDSL in general. Plenty of ISP's offer it. 



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  Reply # 818917 15-May-2013 11:02
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I hope to see VDSL from $70 @ Snap, very soon ;)

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  Reply # 818918 15-May-2013 11:03
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trig42: I wonder if it will push Telecom into releasing a VDSL product?

more likely to be the other way around.

i.e. Telecom wanting to do a mass market VDSL product pushed Chorus into reducing the price.

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  Reply # 818922 15-May-2013 11:15
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Voyager made a comment on Twitter a few weeks back that they would have new pricing.... so obviously they were well aware of this coming and have prepared for it. But yet to see any change....




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  Reply # 819918 15-May-2013 11:31
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Just don't necessarily expect the pricing to mirror ADSL2+, there are lots of other things that need to be factored in such as tail costs (if using Chorus tails) or increased backhaul dimensioning if using 3rd party backhaul.

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  Reply # 819933 15-May-2013 11:48
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Stuff says that VDSL will become more "commonly available" and also mentions approx "two thirds" coverage. Is this a coverage increase?

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  Reply # 819935 15-May-2013 11:52
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Behodar: Stuff says that VDSL will become more "commonly available" and also mentions approx "two thirds" coverage. Is this a coverage increase?


I'd be surprised. 

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  Reply # 819937 15-May-2013 11:53
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Despite the technical complexities, it was always a bit odd that the very newest optical delivery and performance was on a par with ADSL costs and $20 less than VDSL. eg:



I think they needed to square this up and would be very pleased if they did offer this at the same/similar price to ADSL options. Like many I don't have fibre any time soon, but I do have VDSL on offer now.

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  Reply # 819940 15-May-2013 11:55
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not sure i like that chorus plans to withdraw VDSL from the areas that can get fibre by 2015.




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  Reply # 819942 15-May-2013 11:58
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vexxxboy: not sure i like that chorus plans to withdraw VDSL from the areas that can get fibre by 2015.


new connections ^




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  Reply # 819944 15-May-2013 11:59
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vexxxboy: not sure i like that chorus plans to withdraw VDSL from the areas that can get fibre by 2015.


new connections ^


ok that makes sense, as long as the install is still free




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  Reply # 819957 15-May-2013 12:08
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Jaxson: Despite the technical complexities, it was always a bit odd that the very newest optical delivery and performance was on a par with ADSL costs and $20 less than VDSL. eg:




Remember UFB pricing hadn't been set when VDSL2 pricing was. VDSL2 is also a non regulated service meaning Chorus could set pricing whereever they wanted it. At the time I think the price premium over the UBA regulated offering was a fair one.

As for coverage just over 80% of NZ premises have access to 10Mbps of greater speeds. Around 40ish percent of those have access to VDSL2. If you're cabinetised your odds of getting VDSL2 are far higher than this as well over 50% of cabinetised MPF's are within 800m - 1km of a cabinet.

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