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Topic # 120773 13-Jun-2013 09:53
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The three telecommunications companies (Telecom, Telstra, Vodafone) that intend to co-invest in a new submarine cable between New Zealand and Australia have issued a tender for the cable’s construction.

Several international submarine cable contractors have been invited to tender for the Tasman Global Access (TGA) Cable and all have indicated strong interest in responding.

It is anticipated a preferred tenderer will be chosen over the next couple of months, with a contract expected to be in place by later this year and cable construction starting in 2014.

The 2,300km undersea cable system is expected to enter service early in 2015, deploying the latest 100G technology.

Two landing options on the North Island’s west coast are being evaluated for the New Zealand end of the cable: one south of Auckland and the other to the north. In Australia, a number of sites in northern and southern Sydney are being considered.

In February, Telecom, Vodafone and Telstra announced they had signed a non-binding memorandum of understanding (MoU) to co-invest in the TGA Cable, which will significantly improve New Zealand’s international telecommunications connectivity as well as strengthen links into fast-growing Asian markets. It reflects the growing importance of trans-Tasman internet traffic and demand from corporate customers for route diversity: around 40% of both Telecom and Vodafone’s international internet traffic is now Australia to New Zealand, versus just 10% in 2000.

The Tasman Global Access cable will also enable New Zealand to better leverage the four additional international cable systems currently serving Australia (with several more proposed or in development), providing important redundancy for New Zealand. Australia also enjoys good connectivity with Asia, which is achieving strong internet traffic growth in line with global economic shifts.







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  Reply # 836192 13-Jun-2013 10:38
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If they'd like to terminate the cable at my place, I'd be more than happy to accomodate.




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  Reply # 836242 13-Jun-2013 11:29
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DarthKermit: If they'd like to terminate the cable at my place, I'd be more than happy to accomodate.


Cool... at $2 to $5m for a CLS, you're helping pay too?





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  Reply # 836247 13-Jun-2013 11:40
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DonGould:
DarthKermit: If they'd like to terminate the cable at my place, I'd be more than happy to accomodate.


Cool... at $2 to $5m for a CLS, you're helping pay too?



Nup, I was just hoping for free interwebz for the rest of my life.




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  Reply # 836309 13-Jun-2013 13:27
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Is the SxC to Australia nearing capacity?

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  Reply # 836310 13-Jun-2013 13:30
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1080p: Is the SxC to Australia nearing capacity?


Nope

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  Reply # 836502 13-Jun-2013 18:41
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My theory is that vodafone and telstra wanted a cable of their own -
Telecom then thought to itself "Hey we better get in on this, to offset any potential profit loss from the southern cross shares"




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  Reply # 836618 14-Jun-2013 00:52
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the undersea cable market should be regulated like chorus is, clearly its not working currently.





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  Reply # 836621 14-Jun-2013 01:11
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hamish225: the undersea cable market should be regulated like chorus is, clearly its not working currently.


Can you back that up with facts, as as it stands now the prices have been tumbling year on year. Need to stop reading articles in the Herald etc. The SCCN is actually very good, and resilient if protected paths have been bought.

Most problems come down to some ISPs simply not purchasing enough capacity. And before someone says the price is expensive on the global market... look where we are, and consider how little int bandwidth costs attribute to monthly broadband spends. Then look at the Chorus xDSL port prices...... sure you still want to regulate it?


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  Reply # 836653 14-Jun-2013 08:08
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insane:
hamish225: the undersea cable market should be regulated like chorus is, clearly its not working currently.


Can you back that up with facts, as as it stands now the prices have been tumbling year on year. Need to stop reading articles in the Herald etc. The SCCN is actually very good, and resilient if protected paths have been bought.

Most problems come down to some ISPs simply not purchasing enough capacity. And before someone says the price is expensive on the global market... look where we are, and consider how little int bandwidth costs attribute to monthly broadband spends. Then look at the Chorus xDSL port prices...... sure you still want to regulate it?



if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?





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  Reply # 836759 14-Jun-2013 11:35
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hamish225:
insane:
hamish225: the undersea cable market should be regulated like chorus is, clearly its not working currently.


Can you back that up with facts, as as it stands now the prices have been tumbling year on year. Need to stop reading articles in the Herald etc. The SCCN is actually very good, and resilient if protected paths have been bought.

Most problems come down to some ISPs simply not purchasing enough capacity. And before someone says the price is expensive on the global market... look where we are, and consider how little int bandwidth costs attribute to monthly broadband spends. Then look at the Chorus xDSL port prices...... sure you still want to regulate it?



if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?

Are you suggesting to force companies to buy more service from another company?

Vote with your feet. There's plenty of international capacity available, if your current ISP is useless and doesn't have enough, swap to one that does. You get what you pay for too.

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  Reply # 836787 14-Jun-2013 12:10
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i dont personally much have problems with internet speeds since slingshot cache a whole lot of stuff but when things arent cached its pretty bad.





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  Reply # 836802 14-Jun-2013 12:35
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hamish225:
if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?


LOL. Are you sure you posting from NZ and not Zimbabwe or North Korea?

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  Reply # 836819 14-Jun-2013 13:04
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Klipspringer:
hamish225:
if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?


LOL. Are you sure you posting from NZ and not Zimbabwe or North Korea?


lol no i mean like if its as cheap as everyone here says it is (international bandwidth) then why are they not buying enough?





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  Reply # 836837 14-Jun-2013 13:38
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hamish225:
Klipspringer:
hamish225:
if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?


LOL. Are you sure you posting from NZ and not Zimbabwe or North Korea?


lol no i mean like if its as cheap as everyone here says it is (international bandwidth) then why are they not buying enough?


Because consumers are all about price it seems when it comes to internet and that has to cover all the really expensive stuff like support centers for people who don't know how to plug stuff in, the backhaul cost, the line access cost....

Seriously dude "force them to buy more" LOL. If you are so cheap and go with Slingshot then complain about speed maybe the government should force you to not be so cheap and go with a provider with lots of international capacity as an alternative "force"?





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  Reply # 836905 14-Jun-2013 16:09
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hamish225:
Klipspringer:
hamish225:
if ISP's aren't buying enough how about we make them buy more?


LOL. Are you sure you posting from NZ and not Zimbabwe or North Korea?


lol no i mean like if its as cheap as everyone here says it is (international bandwidth) then why are they not buying enough?


i dunno why people keep thinking isp's aren't buying enough international bandwidth.

sure unlimited plans have very tight margins, and a lot of caching etc is used in NZ.  but the biggest problem in NZ is that even NZ sites are often not hosting in NZ.  We just need to bring more content to NZ and things will be sweet.

it's like power having "enough" works most of the time, until there is peak demand, then you can get a few dips.  financially motivated companies aren't likely to keep lots of bandwidth in reserve whilst not being utilised.  that's why on a cold day sometimes the lights will dip etc.  same thing.

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