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Topic # 129393 13-Sep-2013 20:34
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A friend of mine is on a waiting list and getting adsl from his neighbour half a km down the road via wifi link, the neighbour is connected to the conklin at the top of the road, (Jordan Road, Kaukapakapa), sync speed approx 7.5mbits down 900kbits up adsl1.  Recently the broadband has been so unreliable its just useless trying to do anything on it, even in the early hours its bad so we're assuming its the backlink on the conklin or something else.  It used to run quite reliably with obvious slow downs during peak hours, but recently its just not worth paying for anymore.  According to slingshot, chorus has been messing with the "profiles" hence one month was waived off the bill due to the very poor service.  What im wanting to know, is it possible to get connected directly to the Kaukapakapa exchange?  The distance is 9km directly to the exchange, but im assuming chorus has policies in place, like with vdsl and will reject a connection, even though it could possibly work but with a very slow sync speed.

The other option is a wifi link to shelly beach directly across the kaipara harbour, does anyone know if shelly beach is fed with fibre or that place fed with conklins too?

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  Reply # 895449 13-Sep-2013 20:34
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

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  Reply # 895455 13-Sep-2013 20:42
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There is no way to "bypass" the Conklin. If you did you wouldn't have internet.

You're within a Wireless RBI coverage area and it doesn't look like there will be any further DSL upgrades in your area - the wireless RBI is your Broadband solution.



 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 895466 13-Sep-2013 20:54
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sbiddle: There is no way to "bypass" the Conklin. If you did you wouldn't have internet.

You're within a Wireless RBI coverage area and it doesn't look like there will be any further DSL upgrades in your area - the wireless RBI is your Broadband solution.




I just had a look at vodafones rbi plans, and they're highly expensive with limited data compared with fixed line broadband, cellphone reception there is also very patchy on vodafone.  Telecom slightly better.

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/rural/wireless/

edit: We can see the top of the road and SH16, im assuming the properties along SH16 would be connected directly to exchange?

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  Reply # 895471 13-Sep-2013 21:19
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ADSL over 9km is a big no



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  Reply # 895472 13-Sep-2013 21:33
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johnr: ADSL over 9km is a big no


How about 8.5km?

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  Reply # 895474 13-Sep-2013 21:49
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gareth41:
johnr: ADSL over 9km is a big no


How about 8.5km?


Anything over 2km is normally a big no.




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  Reply # 895476 13-Sep-2013 22:07
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There are various providers for RBI Wireless some cheaper than others. There may also be a local WISP.





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  Reply # 895488 13-Sep-2013 23:57
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michaelmurfy:
gareth41:
johnr: ADSL over 9km is a big no


How about 8.5km?


Anything over 2km is normally a big no.


Uhhh it's typically 5km to my knowledge.  But you can't guarantee 5km by road, is 5km by copper.

Edit: Unless you prehaps meant ADSL2 speeds?

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  Reply # 895498 14-Sep-2013 00:55
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Unfortunately RBI cabinets are a bit far out. You'd need a several KM wifi link over a good line of sight and a friend at the other end for these to be useful. From a quick look at the geography i cant see this happening.




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  Reply # 895502 14-Sep-2013 01:46
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We can see the main road SH16 and from there Waiatarua can be seen, however there is some significantly elevated terrain between us and the main centre of kaukapakapa.  Theres another option I have been looking at: Getting adsl2/vdsl from someone elevated close to the exchange and bouncing a wifi link over the hills, might need around 3 to 4 hops and will involve being friendly with several people/farmers, could possibly use some farm sheds and offer the owners free broadband, theres a few on the hills around the place so it is do-able, its just getting the permission and hoping no-one decides to pull the plug later down the track.

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  Reply # 895504 14-Sep-2013 02:25
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If you can get the permission, funding and skill to set it up, a well set up point to point 5ghz wireless chain is going to be your best bet. In fact if you can get the local community onboard you might be able to establish which places are the best to get coverage to the most people with the minimum number of hops.

If RBI cabinets can do VDSL2 then that'd probably be your cheapest uplink method, otherwise even ADSL2+ (or multiple load balanced if many users).

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  Reply # 895512 14-Sep-2013 07:33
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gareth41:
sbiddle: There is no way to "bypass" the Conklin. If you did you wouldn't have internet.

You're within a Wireless RBI coverage area and it doesn't look like there will be any further DSL upgrades in your area - the wireless RBI is your Broadband solution.




I just had a look at vodafones rbi plans, and they're highly expensive with limited data compared with fixed line broadband, cellphone reception there is also very patchy on vodafone.  Telecom slightly better.

http://www.vodafone.co.nz/broadband/rural/wireless/

edit: We can see the top of the road and SH16, im assuming the properties along SH16 would be connected directly to exchange?


Wireless RBI uses an external a antenna. Pricing was also regulated by the Commerce Commission so you need to complain to them about pricing.

At the end of the day you can forget about xDSL - your solution is RBI wireless or coming up with your own wireless solution. Conklins are horrible and some won't be replaced because there simply is no way of delivering a better product hence them being replaced by a regulated wireless offering.

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  Reply # 895523 14-Sep-2013 08:40
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Zeon: There are various providers for RBI Wireless some cheaper than others. There may also be a local WISP.

I'm dealer / installer for http://www.ultimatebroadband.co.nz/

Flick me an email / PM if you would like some more info.

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