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  #908834 6-Oct-2013 17:40
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So how's your install going? All done now?

Do you have any pics of the work to date? Cheers.




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  #908835 6-Oct-2013 17:42
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Have a read of my install diary here. The installers did the inside work, but they're waiting on permission from Wellington Electricity to climb the power poles to get the fiber over the street.

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  #916740 17-Oct-2013 21:22
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Having my fibre installed this coming tuesday.
What's the difference between the "testing" box and the ONT?
I was told there will have o be a box mounted outside the house as well.

The guy said it was ok to run trunking along our concrete wall but not sure why they didn't elect to thrust the cable through the same in-ground path that the pre-existing copper is installed (no overhead wires in the street).

Damian



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  #916964 18-Oct-2013 11:45
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dauckland: Having my fibre installed this coming tuesday.
What's the difference between the "testing" box and the ONT?
I was told there will have o be a box mounted outside the house as well.

The guy said it was ok to run trunking along our concrete wall but not sure why they didn't elect to thrust the cable through the same in-ground path that the pre-existing copper is installed (no overhead wires in the street).

Damian


On the outside of the house we install an ETP (External Termination Point) which is where we run the fibre from the street to.  From there the fibre is extended to where it needs to go in the house.  The ETP is normally installed in place of the existing copper entry point (usually gray plastic box, smaller than a cigarette packet).  If required we run hybrid cable (both copper & fibre) from the ETP to where the ONT will be installed.

At the point where fibre is terminated inside the house (likely behind your TV or behind your PC) we install the ONT (Optical Network Terminator) - the thing you  plug your router into.

If there is a phone service delivered out of the POTS ports on the ONT (or from a connected ISP provided Gateway device)  then the copper cable can be connected - carrying the phone service back to t he ETP where the original house phone cabling is terminated.  This means the VoIP phone service can be delivered to all the existing jack points without major rewiring.






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  #916966 18-Oct-2013 11:49
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chevrolux: Moving an ONT is really never going to be too much of an issue. It's just a bit of splicing.

In reality though it would be heaps heaps easier to run a copper cable to the ONT. Joe Bloggs can run a copper cable fairly inexpensively. However, it takes a bit of experience to splice a fibre not mention $20k worth of splicing kit.

Don't over think this. It is a relatively simple decision and you need to think long-term. Personally I don't see the ceiling space as EVER being an option for anything unless gaining access is like walking in to the next room (ie with a built in pull-down ladder).

Also think about how they will run the fibre to the ceiling space. You don't want ugly plastic trunking going up a wall somewhere.

So to reiterate, put the ONT where it suits you but also where it suits the installer. Then run a copper cable to the ONT from your patch panel.


does the ont need power? was ust thinking how it would work in my house....i have a cat6 cable running out to the little white box with the vdsl filter on the side of the house . hopefully the ont can go there, or would they need to feed the fibre into my house /cabinet? that could be tricky. 

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  #916972 18-Oct-2013 11:56
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surfisup1000:
chevrolux: Moving an ONT is really never going to be too much of an issue. It's just a bit of splicing.

In reality though it would be heaps heaps easier to run a copper cable to the ONT. Joe Bloggs can run a copper cable fairly inexpensively. However, it takes a bit of experience to splice a fibre not mention $20k worth of splicing kit.

Don't over think this. It is a relatively simple decision and you need to think long-term. Personally I don't see the ceiling space as EVER being an option for anything unless gaining access is like walking in to the next room (ie with a built in pull-down ladder).

Also think about how they will run the fibre to the ceiling space. You don't want ugly plastic trunking going up a wall somewhere.

So to reiterate, put the ONT where it suits you but also where it suits the installer. Then run a copper cable to the ONT from your patch panel.


does the ont need power? was ust thinking how it would work in my house....i have a cat6 cable running out to the little white box with the vdsl filter on the side of the house . hopefully the ont can go there, or would they need to feed the fibre into my house /cabinet? that could be tricky. 


As mentioned elsewhere, the ONT has the same environmental requirements as a modem or similar equipment.  Needs power, dry environment, protection from extreme heat/cold, no dust, no insects, mice, rats etc.  So it really needs to be INSIDE the house.




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ChorusVan:
dauckland: Having my fibre installed this coming tuesday.
What's the difference between the "testing" box and the ONT?
I was told there will have o be a box mounted outside the house as well.

The guy said it was ok to run trunking along our concrete wall but not sure why they didn't elect to thrust the cable through the same in-ground path that the pre-existing copper is installed (no overhead wires in the street).

Damian


On the outside of the house we install an ETP (External Termination Point) which is where we run the fibre from the street to.  From there the fibre is extended to where it needs to go in the house.  The ETP is normally installed in place of the existing copper entry point (usually gray plastic box, smaller than a cigarette packet).  If required we run hybrid cable (both copper & fibre) from the ETP to where the ONT will be installed.

At the point where fibre is terminated inside the house (likely behind your TV or behind your PC) we install the ONT (Optical Network Terminator) - the thing you  plug your router into.

If there is a phone service delivered out of the POTS ports on the ONT (or from a connected ISP provided Gateway device)  then the copper cable can be connected - carrying the phone service back to t he ETP where the original house phone cabling is terminated.  This means the VoIP phone service can be delivered to all the existing jack points without major rewiring.




Thanks for all the info.
It raises a couple of concerns though.
The visions stream guy was not bothered as to where current copper connection is coming into the property.
In fact he provisioned to have the ETP at the opposite wall of the house.
Not sure if this points to an easy quick and cheap job type of effort. I'd prefer to have it done properly.

Any advice?
Damian



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  #919574 22-Oct-2013 10:25
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Well

It's all going in as we speak.
The existing copper will be getting disconnected and replaced by the copper in the hybrid fibre bundle.
The ONT is nearly done and just waiting for the ETP to be mounted.
Will take some pics after it's done

Damian

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