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Topic # 133513 24-Oct-2013 17:52
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I'm curious to hear what's stopping those that have UFB available at their premises from switching to it from copper based products.

Is there an install cost involved for you due to the layout of your property or are you unhappy with the current selection of RSP offering's for your area? Does your better half make all the decisions or are you happy with your current solution and unwilling to change at this time? Are you in the 'too hard' basket and unable to be connected at present or is it simply a case of 'can't be bothered'?

For us it revolves around our current solution and the lack of choice from RSP's in our market.

We are currently with Telecom and enjoying unmetered dsl (thanks to Tivo). The speeds offered are consistent and fast enough for the better half to stream all her shows from Netflix in HD with no buffering. We currently only have two providers available in Christchurch, Snap and Orcon. Snap we're looking very promising, but when they put up their break fees on the 2 year contract earlier this year we lost interest. While I have no doubt Snap would provide a great service, it was agreed that we were unwilling to part with the full cost of the Fritz! 7390 box up front nor were we willing to get it on the cheap on the 2 year contact option with a $499 break fee. While we don't envision 2 years would be an issue, we've both reached that stage of life where we try to avoid signing long contacts on services to allow ourselves room to move if a better option comes up (1 year would be our limit). Orcon have never really been a contender due to their Genesis device (which I have used and didn't really like) and their cost structure (Small data cap or unlimited, nothing in between).

Dsl currently works well for us at a good price point so despite initial enthusiasm we'll be staying put for the immediate future, or at least until Telecom finally supports Enable UFB products.

What'stopping you guys from making the switch?

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  Reply # 921139 24-Oct-2013 18:42
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UFB was installed in our street at the start of 2013.


We'll switch to it when there's a compelling reason to do so. Our ADSL speed is pretty good, got the old master splitter installed.

If we had a lot of people using the 'net at once, there'd be more of a reason to want to switch.




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  Reply # 921140 24-Oct-2013 18:44
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ADSL works fine for us at the moment but should be changing over in the coming months

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 921363 25-Oct-2013 08:04
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Our body corporate declined the install, despite there being no invasive work required...

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  Reply # 921367 25-Oct-2013 08:22
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Nothing at all. Got the hard and timeconsuming part out of the way (getting signed consents from the neighbours) and they have now completed the build to extend the fibre(ducts) from the start of the right-of-way to the edge of my property. Wating to receive a call now for the next step (to get it into the house I guess).




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  Reply # 921368 25-Oct-2013 08:22
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^I'd be appealing that. Body Corp tends to forget they're there to help, not hinder.

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  Reply # 921384 25-Oct-2013 08:43
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I tried to get UFB, but there are issues bringing it in aerial via the power poles. Apparently I'm the first overhead install in Wellington.




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  Reply # 921385 25-Oct-2013 08:43
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With VDSL running at 38/9 I really dont need fibre...




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  Reply # 921393 25-Oct-2013 09:04
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You are all mad.
I'd sign up this second if it was available where I am.



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  Reply # 921394 25-Oct-2013 09:06
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wasabi2k: You are all mad.
I'd sign up this second if it was available where I am.




definitely, vdsl just isnt fast enough lol




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  Reply # 921428 25-Oct-2013 09:59
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hio77:
wasabi2k: You are all mad.
I'd sign up this second if it was available where I am.




definitely, vdsl just isnt fast enough lol


Perfectly adequate for the vast majority of broadband subscribers in my opinion.
Even when fibre is running past my door I wont switch unless there is a compelling reason.
Right now, I can do everything I need with the connection I have so what is compelling me to move.

What is it that makes you want to move, is it purely speed? If so you may have periods of buyers remorse:)

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  Reply # 921434 25-Oct-2013 10:14
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Which raises another, slightly off topic, question.

Why are they installing fiber in the places people don't want it and don't need it, while outright missing the places that really do need it?

I've got ADSL1 which at times is unusable and there are no plans to ever install fiber where I live (I'm pretty sure there's fiber running past the town), there aren't even any plans to install ADSL2.




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  Reply # 921448 25-Oct-2013 10:18
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The places with ADSL1 are probably low density, which I understand makes it more expensive per person to deploy fibre.




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  Reply # 921503 25-Oct-2013 10:56
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andrewNZ: Which raises another, slightly off topic, question.

Why are they installing fiber in the places people don't want it and don't need it, while outright missing the places that really do need it?

I've got ADSL1 which at times is unusable and there are no plans to ever install fiber where I live (I'm pretty sure there's fiber running past the town), there aren't even any plans to install ADSL2.


I'd say you're being a bit disingenuous here.

I'd say the calculation would take into account:

Potential Customers (focus on business)
Existing Infrastructure (pre-existing fibre, ducting)
Difficult/Cost to deploy
Resource Contents

and about eleventy billion other factors.

End of the day there must be a critical mass of people wanting and willing to pay for the service in an area for it to be a priority - was the same deal when they were rolling out cabinets.




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  Reply # 921591 25-Oct-2013 12:13
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wasabi2k:
andrewNZ: Which raises another, slightly off topic, question.

Why are they installing fiber in the places people don't want it and don't need it, while outright missing the places that really do need it?

I've got ADSL1 which at times is unusable and there are no plans to ever install fiber where I live (I'm pretty sure there's fiber running past the town), there aren't even any plans to install ADSL2.


I'd say you're being a bit disingenuous here.

I'd say the calculation would take into account:

Potential Customers (focus on business)
Existing Infrastructure (pre-existing fibre, ducting)
Difficult/Cost to deploy
Resource Contents

and about eleventy billion other factors.

End of the day there must be a critical mass of people wanting and willing to pay for the service in an area for it to be a priority - was the same deal when they were rolling out cabinets.


Yea I do understand that. I'm sure they've done the numbers.
It just annoys me to see them rolling out fibre in areas that have great service as it is, and then read that the uptake is abysmal.

I'll let this thread get back to the original topic.




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  Reply # 921598 25-Oct-2013 12:22
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For us it is the cost of change (alarm conversion, new modem etc) but also the naked UFB offerings at the moment are pants and I don't want copper at my house anymore nor a phoneline of any kind.

Most compelling option (weighing up value vs services etc) is Snap. I am just biding my time for more naked UFB offerings to arrive.




 

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