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  Reply # 936782 18-Nov-2013 17:08
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Kirdog: Prices for average Russian internet connection.

City: Vladivostok

Just inet - 3/3 Mbps symmetric connection (no fast night) = Price: 490 RUB == $18 NZD Per month.
Chicago - 10/10 Mbps symmetric connection (Fast hight speed: 40/40) = Price: 690 RUB == $25 NZD Per month.
Moscow - 20/20 Mbps symmetric connection (Fast hight speed: 80/80) = Price: 890 RUB == $32 NZD Per month.
Dubai - 30/30 Mbps symmetric connection (Fast hight speed: 100/100) = Price: 1090 RUB == $40 NZD Per month.

(proof: http://www.inetvl.ru/tarifs/ )

* All this plans are unlimited
* Fast night option cost 2$NZD per Month.
* Static IP for this plan cost $2 Per month, for moscow and dubai static IP is free option.
* This plans includes free services:
> Free internal network services on 100/1000 Mbps unlimited connection. p2p sharing, IPTV upt to 130 channels , internal resources created by ISP users, internal "piratbay", on-line radio, game portal and etc.
* Free connection
* no phone line needed (ADSL/VDSL dead technology in russia.)
* Voip service available but nobody use it. 

Internet in Russia now becomes all uncapped, and people like it. 

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That is not average. Most of Russia does not have access to those sorts of a speeds.



Check NAG.ru you will be surprised. Some regions started rural broadband connections via fiber optics, haha. :) 

If course there is no even 75% coverage, country is too big to cover everything. But main difference in (ISP providing) between NZ and Russia, we don't have monopoly and restrictions, for example if you don't have anything at your premises (phone line or optic connection and etc.) You can buy optic cable and run it to the closest ISP exchange/cabinet, after this you need to meet with technician and he will connect you, and after this you go to the the office and sign contract and etc.  

Cable is your responsibility and you pay only for connection and actual usage plan (and here you can chose unlimited or limited cap).


Haha the reliability and bitching about whose fault it is must be hillariously bad, as is so much in Russia. Sure my car might have a 2000 horse power engine but built from an ox cart with different sized wheels....







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  Reply # 936973 18-Nov-2013 21:06
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Kirdog: Check NAG.ru you will be surprised. Some regions started rural broadband connections via fiber optics, haha. :) 

If course there is no even 75% coverage, country is too big to cover everything. But main difference in (ISP providing) between NZ and Russia, we don't have monopoly and restrictions, for example if you don't have anything at your premises (phone line or optic connection and etc.) You can buy optic cable and run it to the closest ISP exchange/cabinet, after this you need to meet with technician and he will connect you, and after this you go to the the office and sign contract and etc.  

Cable is your responsibility and you pay only for connection and actual usage plan (and here you can chose unlimited or limited cap).


I think it's great how you compare a large city with a far higher population in Russia and use that as a basis to call out NZ. When the NZ vs Russian population density is actually somewhat similar to each other and there are large areas of both countries that are sparsely populated.

I also find it interesting you can get your own fibre and dig up the street and lay your own fibre to the cabinet/exchange. That must make for a complete nightmare when it comes to ensuring standards and proper installs. But then again if you own it... it's your problem.



99% is aerial cable connection, no one digs anything :). Some streets looks crappy, but who cares :D. 




Sorry about my English guys :>

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Kirdog: 
99% is aerial cable connection, no one digs anything :). Some streets looks crappy, but who cares :D. 


Thats usually a sign of a 3rd world country, where you end up with this....


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Kirdog: Prices for average Russian internet connection.


You need to consider relative purchasing power, also you need to factor in our geographic isolation...

Russia: Average household net-adjusted disposable income is 15,286 USD
NZ: Average household net-adjusted disposable income is 21,892 USD

Source: http://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org

Another example:

Big Mac Index

Russia: $2.64 USD (Rouble 87)
NZ: $4.30 USD (NZ $5.50)

Source: http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index


Basically bigger numbers due to bigger income and smaller market, nothing new here.


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Kirdog: 
99% is aerial cable connection, no one digs anything :). Some streets looks crappy, but who cares :D. 


Thats usually a sign of a 3rd world country, where you end up with this....



No not so weired :D




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