UFB's 'horrible green thing'

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Grant777

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#971698 21-Jan-2014 15:00

cyril7:
k1wi:
nakedmolerat: I am interested to know if they knew about this geekzone discussion.
Unless they google themselves I doubt their GZ's typical user?

Yep, 99.9% of GZ users start frothing at the mouth with the thought of accessible fibre on their lawn, but not for the same reason these guys are frothing at the mouth.

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lol. Yes I can see both sides of the issue. It does look a bit of a

visually due to the vertical line of it going higher than their retaining wall. It would be annoying having just done landscaping. One solution may be to paint their retaining wall the same dark green? Though I prefer non painting retaining walls/decks etc myself. Just one of those "bad luck" things in life I guess. Life is full of compromises.

bales

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#971719 21-Jan-2014 15:48

i was thinking they could paint it grey to match carport.

k1wi

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#971720 21-Jan-2014 15:50

bales: i was thinking they could paint it grey to match carport.

Or white to match the downpipe...

deepred

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#971834 21-Jan-2014 19:36

old3eyes:
chevrolux:

Wellington isn't far off in that some places with the HFC network. And yet people still think it is a good idea to put these on poles. Best decision Auckland has made was saying no to having HFC on poles.

Not really. There are so many areas in Auckland that aren't going to get underground power in the next 50 years so putting fiber underground is going to be a costly exercise in these streets but hanging it from the polls would make more sense as they have done in Whangarei and have finished the roll out.. In pure underground areas it makes sense to underground . Unfortunately the holy crusade by the NZ Herald to the Auckland City Council some years ago prevented TelstraClear from installing cable in Auckland..

Was it something to do with keeping the property bubble intact? If so, it's NZ's nearest equivalent of the Common Agricultural Policy.

garvani

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#972739 23-Jan-2014 12:01

Drove out of my driveway this morning to find that i too have had one errected just outside the boundary of my place.. Do i care? no! I wonder how i havn't see it until now, i guess im oblivious to these things as Chorus were doing work down our street early december and surely its been there since then. Chorus site says we should be live by Feb, heres hoping! Should having that "horrible green thing" (got to laugh!) so close to my house make the ufb install somewhat easier?

garvani

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#972762 23-Jan-2014 12:11

k1wi:
This is what overhead services look like where I lived in Boston (and they don't do it justice):

<SNIP>

Almost as good as Koh Samui in Thailand (well thailand in general i guess!). You can hear the power arching as your walking underneath these, not a great feeling ;)

linw

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#972882 23-Jan-2014 14:36

Wow, that's impressive!! Wonder how they work out which wire goes where? Yea, the arcing thing must be a worry

DravidDavid

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#972922 23-Jan-2014 15:13

Here is one that was just put in today across the street from work. It's in a similar situation as the original one that was posted.

https://imgur.com/QoYcyWD

linw

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#973163 23-Jan-2014 20:53

How is it that some UFB areas have these but others (like ours) don't? We just have a cabinet from which the ducts travel underground to each house. (Location is Camborne, Porirua, in a Chorus zone).

InstallerUFB

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#973247 23-Jan-2014 22:38

linw: How is it that some UFB areas have these but others (like ours) don't? We just have a cabinet from which the ducts travel underground to each house. (Location is Camborne, Porirua, in a Chorus zone).

The first two yrs of construction used the original design - running the microducting all the way back to the cabinets

These later constructed areas have used what is known as yr3 Architecture - where a larger fixed fibre (typicaly 48F) is run/blown from the cabinet to the ABFAT -'Air Blown Fibre Access Terminal' (these green things) and then the micro tubeing is run out from there to the property boundarys / allowing for less cost in tubeing/civils - less problems in blowing the service fibre ie less bends/length/friction etc.

The next generation of architecture is yr4 - this has no cabinet and the optical spliters are moved out to the ABFATS - This is the architecture that is being used in new designs now

sbiddle

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#973312 24-Jan-2014 07:35

The architecture changes mean Chorus are easily able to make major changes to the network architecture to support faster speeds and services.

A typical yr1 and yr2 architecture (and my understanding is the other LFC's have all used this same architecture can limit the ability to easily customise the standard 24 way optical split. It can also limit the ability to deliver P2P services or dark fibre services in the future.

The yr3 and yr4 Chorus architecture gives a lot more flexibility in this regard, Chorus are aiming towards moving to 16 way splits as part of Right Performing. Right Performing is the name of the plan to introduce contention into the fibre network, as the 100Mbps CFH plans were designed around having a 24 way split from the 2.4Gbps GPON node. To offer speeds above 100Mbps you immediately introduce contention.

If you offered a 1 Gbps plan over GPON you'd have 2.4Gbps split between 24 users which is an unacceptably high contention ratio. It might be fine now because there is absolutely no use or need for 1Gbps for 99.9% of users, but moving forward a few years those sorts of limits are exactly why people on Conklin's are suffering from poor speeds - the contention ratios between user speeds and maximum bandwidth are all wrong.

By moving the splitters to the FAT you can easily change the split to accommodate users requirements, and can also very easily deploy P2P services to any customer over UFB infrastructure.

k1wi

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#973315 24-Jan-2014 07:51

Do I want UFB now, or better UFB later...?

(It's moot for me, however, we got our letter today :) )

I'm curious to see where the FAT goes (if it does), I guess between a couple of properties, as apart from one retaining wall and one front fence all the properties open out onto the services area.

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#973322 24-Jan-2014 08:16

The FAT can also be located in a pit if it's appropriate. Building a new pit isn't a cheap or quick process though.

BlueShift

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#973332 24-Jan-2014 08:35

I will be watching with interest then, they've just been through and striped up my lawn with dazzle prior to rolling the fibre through my area. The thruster turned up down the road the other day, but they haven't started digging yet. Last time I looked at the UFB map it said August 2014, so they might be running a bit early in Hamilton.
I don't have a problem with the green minion, but I'd hope it would be installed on the boundary between properties, like the black power boxes are. If one pops up halfway along my front boundary it will be a bit of an eyesore, as I don't have a retaining wall or fence between me and the street.

GregV

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#973360 24-Jan-2014 09:26

BlueShift:...green minion...

That's what I'll be calling these things from now on :)

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