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  # 987293 14-Feb-2014 14:44
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hio77:
Geektastic: According to VF broadband folks it is not available at our address....


suppose this prompts the question, why are you with vodafone?


ild turn to another isp, atlest simply to ask for a "prequal" to check for vdsl.


post your line stats if you want, can pick through them and give you a few estimates too.


Mainly because we have everything - 2 mobiles, Sky TV and broadband - through VF.

Where would I find the line stats?





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  # 987294 14-Feb-2014 14:45
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Geektastic:
Chorusnz: There is Chorus VDSL in the Martinborough exchange, so if you are in the township you have a good chance of getting it.

Note:  Some ISPs only offer VDSL where they have their own DSLAMs in a Chorus exchange, or don't offer Wholesale-based VDSL if they have their own infrastructure (Community Wi-Fi, Fixed Wireless, Cable, Fibre).  This is completely logical and to be expected.

Go to www.chorus.co.nz/maps and look up your address and then shop around.



You map is using incorrect data. It lists our address as being in Ponatahi, which is about 20km away!

I finally got NZ Post to correct their maps but yours must be using the older data. It just says 'outside area of planned coverage' though.


given map confusions, ild tread very carefully around plausible false results.  


i personally have had multiple prequals on locations done, inwhich one was over GZ (so i had typed the address.) attenuation figures were WAY off what my ISP had given. end of the day, ISP was correct. 




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  # 987296 14-Feb-2014 14:46
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Geektastic:
hio77:
Geektastic: According to VF broadband folks it is not available at our address....


suppose this prompts the question, why are you with vodafone?


ild turn to another isp, atlest simply to ask for a "prequal" to check for vdsl.


post your line stats if you want, can pick through them and give you a few estimates too.


Mainly because we have everything - 2 mobiles, Sky TV and broadband - through VF.

Where would I find the line stats?


i have never touched the new vodafone modems (im assuming your using their hg ranges) so i cant tell you exactly.


but ild expect there would be a DSL Statistics page reasonably easily found. - i have heard a few bad things about their UI too though unfortunately..  




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  # 987307 14-Feb-2014 15:04
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hio77:
Geektastic:
hio77:
Geektastic: According to VF broadband folks it is not available at our address....


suppose this prompts the question, why are you with vodafone?


ild turn to another isp, atlest simply to ask for a "prequal" to check for vdsl.


post your line stats if you want, can pick through them and give you a few estimates too.


Mainly because we have everything - 2 mobiles, Sky TV and broadband - through VF.

Where would I find the line stats?


i have never touched the new vodafone modems (im assuming your using their hg ranges) so i cant tell you exactly.


but ild expect there would be a DSL Statistics page reasonably easily found. - i have heard a few bad things about their UI too though unfortunately..  




 

I found some numbers that may be what you are asking for!

                               Upstream             Downstream

CurrRate (kbps)            1164                   16308

MaxRate (kbps)             1216                   19048

NoiseMargin(dB)           16.0                    14.4

Attenuation (dB)           11.5                     2.8

Power (dBm)                12.8                     0.0

Modulation Type ADSL2+





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  # 987309 14-Feb-2014 15:06
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urm. short of maybe a cabinet limitation, your lines perfect for vdsl.

2.8db attenuation, would be about a 40~/10 on 8b and around a 60~/10 on 17a (which your line looks to be in good running for)

your SNR is a little higher than it should be, nothing to really be concerned about though.




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  # 987324 14-Feb-2014 15:20
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hio77: urm. short of maybe a cabinet limitation, your lines perfect for vdsl.

2.8db attenuation, would be about a 40~/10 on 8b and around a 60~/10 on 17a (which your line looks to be in good running for)

your SNR is a little higher than it should be, nothing to really be concerned about though.


Good to know - thanks! Those numbers may as well be orbital thrust calculations for all the clarity they bring me! ;-)

I've taken Johnr's kid offer up and passed the account number to him to see if he can unearth more from his side of the fence.





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  # 987326 14-Feb-2014 15:22
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Got the INFO thanks

 
 
 
 


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  # 987338 14-Feb-2014 15:37
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Geektastic:
hio77: urm. short of maybe a cabinet limitation, your lines perfect for vdsl.

2.8db attenuation, would be about a 40~/10 on 8b and around a 60~/10 on 17a (which your line looks to be in good running for)

your SNR is a little higher than it should be, nothing to really be concerned about though.


Good to know - thanks! Those numbers may as well be orbital thrust calculations for all the clarity they bring me! ;-)

I've taken Johnr's kid offer up and passed the account number to him to see if he can unearth more from his side of the fence.


Confirmed you can't connect to VDSL

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  # 987339 14-Feb-2014 15:39
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johnr:
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hio77: urm. short of maybe a cabinet limitation, your lines perfect for vdsl.

2.8db attenuation, would be about a 40~/10 on 8b and around a 60~/10 on 17a (which your line looks to be in good running for)

your SNR is a little higher than it should be, nothing to really be concerned about though.


Good to know - thanks! Those numbers may as well be orbital thrust calculations for all the clarity they bring me! ;-)

I've taken Johnr's kid offer up and passed the account number to him to see if he can unearth more from his side of the fence.


Confirmed you can't connect to VDSL


sounds like a cabinet/exchange limitation in that case? feel sorry for you Geektastic, would drive me somewhat nutty to have a connection that close and not be able to go.




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  # 987341 14-Feb-2014 15:42
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hio77:
johnr:
Geektastic:
hio77: urm. short of maybe a cabinet limitation, your lines perfect for vdsl.

2.8db attenuation, would be about a 40~/10 on 8b and around a 60~/10 on 17a (which your line looks to be in good running for)

your SNR is a little higher than it should be, nothing to really be concerned about though.


Good to know - thanks! Those numbers may as well be orbital thrust calculations for all the clarity they bring me! ;-)

I've taken Johnr's kid offer up and passed the account number to him to see if he can unearth more from his side of the fence.


Confirmed you can't connect to VDSL


sounds like a cabinet/exchange limitation in that case? feel sorry for you Geektastic, would drive me somewhat nutty to have a connection that close and not be able to go.


Confirmed too far from serving cabinet / exchange

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  # 987352 14-Feb-2014 15:54
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Urm? Too far? With a 3db downstream attenuation? Doesn't quite line up.

Given sync speed his attenuation doesn't look to be miss reporting. Seems like the results don't line up with what is actually the case.


Looks like a case of chorus tools being wrong.




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  # 987364 14-Feb-2014 16:08
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hio77:
Geektastic: According to VF broadband folks it is not available at our address....


suppose this prompts the question, why are you with vodafone?


ild turn to another isp, atlest simply to ask for a "prequal" to check for vdsl.


post your line stats if you want, can pick through them and give you a few estimates too.


We did this as I understand Dylan is double checking

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  # 987365 14-Feb-2014 16:11
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hio77:
Geektastic: According to VF broadband folks it is not available at our address....


suppose this prompts the question, why are you with vodafone?


ild turn to another isp, atlest simply to ask for a "prequal" to check for vdsl.


post your line stats if you want, can pick through them and give you a few estimates too.


We did this!!


i understand that john, what im saying, is given his stats, the prequal doesnt seem right.


im not at all saying there isnt some other issue that also is stopping vdsl. nor am i saying he can defiantly get it.


all im simply pointing out, is distance has been said to be the problem, however given his attenuation, he would be approximately, less than 200M from the cabinet/exchange. 




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  # 987375 14-Feb-2014 16:29
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I shall order a manual prequal if Dylan isn't already



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  # 988587 16-Feb-2014 23:23
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TimA: I shall order a manual prequal if Dylan isn't already


Thanks - it will be interesting to see the answer!





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