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  # 992849 23-Feb-2014 16:08
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Personally I think tail extension for any UFB/RBI fibre product should be available they way it is for ADSL/VDSL that way RSPs/ISPs would not have to have a POI in 32 exchanges (I think that is the number of UFB areas)





That would be great but unfortunately Chorus and the LFCs are not permitted to offer these.



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  # 992908 23-Feb-2014 17:30
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godber:
Personally I think tail extension for any UFB/RBI fibre product should be available they way it is for ADSL/VDSL that way RSPs/ISPs would not have to have a POI in 32 exchanges (I think that is the number of UFB areas)





That would be great but unfortunately Chorus and the LFCs are not permitted to offer these.




any reason why not?





 
 
 
 


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  # 992912 23-Feb-2014 17:34
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i could see the sense in requiring ISPs to have POPs in the exchanges, but for RBI type connections, where theres a different LFCs for the area, i would kinda expect exceptions to be made..

by that logic though, is POP hardware really that limited that they cant connect to two LFCs?




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  # 993016 23-Feb-2014 20:58
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plambrechtsen: And just a heads up, it seems Telecom isn't listed on that page. Although we do have many handovers across the country. I believe that is being worked on.


So would Telecom offer Coromandal RBI Fibre community connections with the POI at the main exchange in Tauranga and would ringing/emailing Telecom get a reply to my enquiry?


I've found out some further information about this, please email me "pl at telecom.co.nz" to take this offline.

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  # 993018 23-Feb-2014 21:07
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hamish225:
sbiddle:
godber:
Personally I think tail extension for any UFB/RBI fibre product should be available they way it is for ADSL/VDSL that way RSPs/ISPs would not have to have a POI in 32 exchanges (I think that is the number of UFB areas)





That would be great but unfortunately Chorus and the LFCs are not permitted to offer these.




any reason why not?


Chorus don't actually own a National IP backhaul network, the network that carry's DSL traffic from the nearest POI to a remote RSP handover, if the RSP does not have a local handover, is actually carried over Telecom's National Network and is built as a agency service sold to RSP's by Chorus.

Its either referred to as Tail Extension, or UBR - carried over Telecom's ATM or Ethernet backhaul network, these products were all developed when it was just Telecom under Telecom Wholesale.

UFB is also a completely different network, and is highly unlikely to ever have a tail extension product like DSL has, well from Chorus anyway, a few major RSP's have wholesale products that can do this for smaller RSP.

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