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  # 1001620 9-Mar-2014 12:01
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webwat: I don't think Voda is interested in structural separation to do it - a prerequisite for UFB.

Is it a prerequisite to supply UFB, or just to get Govt funding for a network build?

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  # 1001651 9-Mar-2014 12:47
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pchs:
In Christchurch (not sure about Wellington) a large amount of the HFC network deployment is on power lines, whereas the fibre network is being deployed below ground, so the fibre network will be more reliable, very little if any fibre was broken in the earthquakes.



UFB is being deployed both below ground and overhead. It just depends on the local infrastructure.

A lot has been made of North Power and their "fast" rollout of UFB. They have a network that's mostly overhead, and being the local lines company they also own the poles.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1002386 10-Mar-2014 21:06
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nickb800:
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nickb800: If VF was willing to wholesale its HFC on CFH terms, then why not push HFC areas of Christchurch and Wellington to the final year of the UFB rollout?

Now is the logical time to upgrade Christchurch to UFB, whilst everything is being rebuilt.


You'd think so, but aside from SCIRT coordinating road/water/wastewater/storwater rebuild, it seems that Enable are doing their own thing anyway
Things have to done in layers anyway, lowest being wastewater then mains water and then storm water. At the least broken laterals would have to fixed before UFB could be installed, that's part of the first layer, wastewater. After each layer the road & footpaths gets the cheapest fill and cover until all services on a road are complete, that will probably be another 5 years. And at that point patchy roads are the best Christchurch will have in some places for a good long while. State highways will get the best and quickest proper resurfacing, and that's still years away from complete.

In short earthquake repairs will dictate where it is possible to install UFB without it getting ripped up to fix something else later. The same trenches are highly unlikely to ever to used to repair/install two or more services at one time, in fact most services don't overlap so it's practically impossible to use the same trench.


Anyhow, all I came here to say was I'm not happy the cable network stalled so short of it's planned growth all those years ago, and I really hope UFB doesn't go the same way so that I end up never getting anything better than ADSL. Seems to me all corporate mergers/absorptions do is kill things, and all that Vodafone does is corporate absorptions.

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  # 1002411 10-Mar-2014 21:28
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sbiddle:
pchs:
In Christchurch (not sure about Wellington) a large amount of the HFC network deployment is on power lines, whereas the fibre network is being deployed below ground, so the fibre network will be more reliable, very little if any fibre was broken in the earthquakes.



UFB is being deployed both below ground and overhead. It just depends on the local infrastructure.

A lot has been made of North Power and their "fast" rollout of UFB. They have a network that's mostly overhead, and being the local lines company they also own the poles.


North power is EXCELLENT, The installs are good and the techs are cool locals :). They are 90% done if not 100% by now and the service is actually really good. Dads house has it in Whangarei.


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  # 1002442 10-Mar-2014 21:53
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sbiddle:
pchs:
In Christchurch (not sure about Wellington) a large amount of the HFC network deployment is on power lines, whereas the fibre network is being deployed below ground, so the fibre network will be more reliable, very little if any fibre was broken in the earthquakes.



UFB is being deployed both below ground and overhead. It just depends on the local infrastructure.

A lot has been made of North Power and their "fast" rollout of UFB. They have a network that's mostly overhead, and being the local lines company they also own the poles.


Overhead installation is far quicker. A lot of Saturns installation in Wellington was overhead, and it was/is an eyesore, but they also rolled it out very quickly due to it being overhead. Underground installation is slow and has lots of potential problems.

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  # 1002741 11-Mar-2014 12:37
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If Vodafone were to provide UFB products, then they would need to get them all approved through the TCF product forum like the LFC/Chorus has to. That would be interesting to see how they would like others telling them what they can sell.


(TCF Product forum is where all the LFCs/Chorus/ISPs meet once a month to discuss what the products should be and get agreement from everyone.)

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