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Sounddude:NonprayingMantis:
and yet despite all major ISPs except telecom (50% market share) unbundling, there are still only 120k (less than 10% share) unbundled connections.
Your point?
Telecom are not allowed to unbunble. If they could, I bet you they would.
Cabinets are not viable to unbundle, as the regulated fibre backhaul are far from realistic. It would be much higher if it was realistic.
The question i'm more interested in is will competition in international bandwidth, increase the total bandwidth the ISP gets for the same amount of money? If so, this is going to result in better performance at peak times and/or higher data caps.
eXDee: Its fairly clear that the cost isn't really going to go down for the end user. The ISP might save itself a bit, but not much is really going to passed on cost wise by the look.
The question i'm more interested in is will competition in international bandwidth, increase the total bandwidth the ISP gets for the same amount of money? If so, this is going to result in better performance at peak times and/or higher data caps.
nigelj: Okay they are talking about upgrades in one small part of their statement, a network like that is always going to have upgrades and involve, the key point they are making is NZ<->US has far less use proportionally than AU<->NZ<->US and that for the NZ government to contribute large chunks of money to it's construction would subsidize traffic that goes through NZ or bypasses it (via alternative legs, which the NZ stop for redundancy).
Southern Cross seem to be the only ones so far in this thread that have remembered that Hawaiki are doing just that, it's an Australia to US cable, with a major spur to Whangarei and minor spurs to several PI nations, note that they aren't criticizing this as unviable, they are actually doing the complete opposite signaling that there is already significant work on an alternative.
Time to find a new industry!
webwat: Whatever is true or not with competition on the NZ-US route, there still needs to be both competition and diversity in the market...
... the main point of the press release is to lobby government and/or opposition parties to let Telecom keep their virtual monopoly. Its a game Telecom has played for a long time so its not that easy to change a corporate culture that precipitates "obfuscation" press releases aimed at popular/political influence....
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webwat:nigelj: Southern Cross seem to be the only ones so far in this thread that have remembered that Hawaiki are doing just that, it's an Australia to US cable, with a major spur to Whangarei and minor spurs to several PI nations, note that they aren't criticizing this as unviable, they are actually doing the complete opposite signaling that there is already significant work on an alternative.
Whatever is true or not with competition on the NZ-US route, there still needs to be both competition and diversity in the market.
Telecom is proposing an NZ-AU link that is subject to competition from other proposals, including the Kordia one, and the main point of the press release is to lobby government and/or opposition parties to let Telecom keep their virtual monopoly. Its a game Telecom has played for a long time so its not that easy to change a corporate culture that precipitates "obfuscation" press releases aimed at popular/political influence.
I reckon Pacific Fibre fell over because it planned to replicate the SX route from Sydney to US, not much advantage in that. A better option would have been a cable to Guam, which would give NZ diversity to US while also providing a more direct route to Asia. In comparison, Telecom/Vodafone's best idea is pretty much the minimum investment.
Sounddude:NonprayingMantis:]
It has?
Last I saw there were only just over 100k UCLL connections in the market, that's less than 10% of all connections.
Sure has. It allowed ISP's to sell Broadband at true cost, rather than Telecoms retail minus (which was the Wholesale pricing before unbundling).
It created compeition in the market and was the starting point for the Chorus/Telecom split.
Time to find a new industry!
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