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Topic # 143726 24-Apr-2014 20:16
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Hi all,

We're currently in the process of putting a small extension on the house (ensuite and wardrobe), and I'm taking the opportunity to run some data cabling from the bedroom and wardrobe back to our office while the wall linings are off. UFB is scheduled to be run in this area in the next year or two, so I thought I'd see if anyone had any suggestions for steps I should be taking now, to make the UFB install process more straightforward when the time comes.

Our home is a fairly standard style ex-state house, so we have reasonably good access to both the ceiling and under the floor. The house currently has a phone line and Vodafone cable both coming into the house as overhead lines. The phone line has its termination point on the fascia just below the gutter, and goes directly into the ceiling space from there. The Vodafone cable runs along the gutter and then down a vent pipe to a termination point on the side of the house, then through a foundation vent into the sub-floor. 

I'm assuming that because our services are currently overhead, UFB would be delivered the same way. From install photos I've seen posted by others, my guess is that it would come in overhead, but then need to run down the side of the house to a termination point in the same way as our cable. 

I've had the electrician put in a power point just inside the door of the wardrobe, and have installed a data point next to it. There are cable runs both into the ceiling and down to the sub-floor from that point. Any further suggestions appreciated.

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  Reply # 1030828 24-Apr-2014 21:24
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Do you think you'd need data cabling into your wardrobe or bathroom? If not then not sure there's much to do. If you have good ceiling and floor access I'd probably worry about it later. The main thing to consider is where the ONT and router will live - I chose an inaccessible top cupboard.




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  Reply # 1030835 24-Apr-2014 21:43
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The main choice is to choose where you want your "star" point. Most houses would use the garage but being a state house perhaps the laundry?





 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1030867 24-Apr-2014 22:19
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Zeon: The main choice is to choose where you want your "star" point. Most houses would use the garage but being a state house perhaps the laundry?


A much better place is the hall cupboard as network cabinets / stair wireing points should not be installed in laundrys if can be avoided, unless the laundry equipment ( includeing open tubs) are well vented to the outside world

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  Reply # 1030872 24-Apr-2014 22:34
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froob: Hi all,

We're currently in the process of putting a small extension on the house (ensuite and wardrobe), and I'm taking the opportunity to run some data cabling from the bedroom and wardrobe back to our office while the wall linings are off. UFB is scheduled to be run in this area in the next year or two, so I thought I'd see if anyone had any suggestions for steps I should be taking now, to make the UFB install process more straightforward when the time comes.

Our home is a fairly standard style ex-state house, so we have reasonably good access to both the ceiling and under the floor. The house currently has a phone line and Vodafone cable both coming into the house as overhead lines. The phone line has its termination point on the fascia just below the gutter, and goes directly into the ceiling space from there. The Vodafone cable runs along the gutter and then down a vent pipe to a termination point on the side of the house, then through a foundation vent into the sub-floor. 

I'm assuming that because our services are currently overhead, UFB would be delivered the same way. From install photos I've seen posted by others, my guess is that it would come in overhead, but then need to run down the side of the house to a termination point in the same way as our cable.


More than likely -yes  - Overhead and then down to a fibre ETP and then either back up into the roof or down under the floor 

I've had the electrician put in a power point just inside the door of the wardrobe, and have installed a data point next to it. There are cable runs both into the ceiling and down to the sub-floor from that point. Any further suggestions appreciated.


I gather you intend to use the wardrobe as your new star wireing hub ?  If so consider running a few more cables at the same time at least two cat5+ to each intended remote point , not just one. Consider running cables to the TV/entertainment centre area now as well as to you office.  I would run as many cables as you can afford now, if you are geeting someone in to do it, as the cost of materials is a lot lower than the labour ost of getting them back to do it in the futre

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  Reply # 1030873 24-Apr-2014 22:34
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Lot of fluff in laundries as well.

The hall cupboard can be a good 'conduit' between the under floor area and the ceiling space, too.



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  Reply # 1030942 25-Apr-2014 10:06
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Thanks for the comments. Just to clarify, I have star-wired the house back to our office, with the cables terminating at a faceplate behind a computer desk. From there I have runs to the TV, hallway and bedroom. 

I was considering wiring our DSL line from our splitter back to the wardrobe, so the router and modem can be stashed in there out of the way. They would be wired back to the switch in the office, and from there on to the rest of the house. That modem and router are currently sitting in our hallway. When the time comes, I was thinking I would also have the ONT installed in the wardrobe - which is why I was wondering if there is anything further I should do while the linings are off.

I could have the modem / ONT and router installed in the office, but because the wall linings are off in the new wardrobe, I can run the cabling down from the ceiling much more neatly.

There unfortunately isn't really a good cupboard or other space I could locate a patch panel. The house has no laundry, which has been taken in the past to create a larger kitchen. It also doesn't have a garage. All our electrical wiring comes back to the breakers directly above our hallway cupboard, so I don't think it would be particularly good to have data cable runs there.

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Perhaps while the gib is off, you could run a couple of ~32 mm conduits from floor to ceiling, so that it's easier to install additional data cabling at a later stage?

I've done that in our spare bedroom. I initially ripped all the gib down to insulate, but thought it was a good idea to run conduits for future requirements.




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  Reply # 1031015 25-Apr-2014 11:54
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DarthKermit: Perhaps while the gib is off, you could run a couple of ~32 mm conduits from floor to ceiling, so that it's easier to install additional data cabling at a later stage?

Good plan.
Easy now, hard later.




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