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  Reply # 1122097 4-Sep-2014 19:24
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Any second now Timbo will come in and remind us all how RBI is completely useless for him.

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  Reply # 1122106 4-Sep-2014 19:41

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TimA: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10460390/National-lines-up-35-more-towns-for-UFB 
I wonder..


Labour opposing for oppositions sake there -
Labour communications spokeswoman Clare Curran dismissed the plan as "blatant broadband pork barrelling". "Instead of addressing the real issues of the woeful inefficiency of Chorus in rolling out ultrafast broadband and its desperate attempts to keep copper prices high along with the low uptake of UFB by households, National has merrily announced it will broaden its scheme to parts of New Zealand where it wants and needs more votes," she said.

I don't dismiss it as pork-barreling - it looks like something that can happen, and the money is already there.

Besides, I think Chorus (and the rest of the LFCs) are doing a pretty good job of a massive rollout.

Pity Outram wasn't on the list, guess not big enough.


Wow, why is Clare Curran so mean towards Chorus?  It works hard and is ahead of schedule with it's part of the UFB roll out.  I think Chorus is doing a swell job.  Why would she say such mean things if they're not true?  I don't get it.  Makes me sad :(

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  Reply # 1122152 4-Sep-2014 21:07
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quickymart: Any second now Timbo will come in and remind us all how RBI is completely useless for him.


RBI doesn't just mean wireless.

Outram gets VDSL2 cabinets as part of the RBI fixed line program (and has always been getting these). RBI wireless is covering the areas where RBI copper infrastructure isn't being upgraded.





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  Reply # 1122157 4-Sep-2014 21:09
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Wow, why is Clare Curran so mean towards Chorus? 


She's as anti Chorus as they come with very little understanding from a technical level of UFB or xDSL.




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  Reply # 1122184 4-Sep-2014 21:56
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Such a waste...

According to the Chorus Network Map ALL the towns announced on that list curently have VDSL capability, with such a low take up of UFB they should have put the money into a better cause like helping the many "Black Spot" towns like Outram.  Might have given them more brownie points.

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Yes a number of cabinets out of town are getting upgraded to ADSL2/VDSL2, but the exchange here isn't.  A handful of home within reach of those cabinets or a few hundred homes if the exchange were upgraded...

Tim

P.S. Moving soon, pity the new fibre duct that goes past "The Renter" past our exchange to the school can't be tapped into, just outside of town it can though.

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Where do I go to find which districts ARE included as the linked article doesn't mention any but 2?

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  Reply # 1122213 4-Sep-2014 22:26
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NZtimbo: Such a waste...

According to the Chorus Network Map ALL the towns announced on that list curently have VDSL capability, with such a low take up of UFB they should have put the money into a better cause like helping the many "Black Spot" towns like Outram.  Might have given them more brownie points.

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Yes a number of cabinets out of town are getting upgraded to ADSL2/VDSL2, but the exchange here isn't.  A handful of home within reach of those cabinets or a few hundred homes if the exchange were upgraded...

Tim

P.S. Moving soon, pity the new fibre duct that goes past "The Renter" past our exchange to the school can't be tapped into, just outside of town it can though.

Where are you moving to? Have you checked for VDSL/fibre etc (serious question)?

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PhantomNVD: Where do I go to find which districts ARE included as the linked article doesn't mention any but 2?

Towards the end of the linked article...

The towns named by Adams as strong contenders for UFB are: Te Puke, Motueka, Morrinsville, Kerikeri, Huntly, Thames, Matamata, Otaki, Kawerau, Waitara, Kaitaia, Dannevirke, Alexandra, Stratford, Whitianga, Cromwell, Taumarunui, Picton, Foxton, Kaikohe, Marton, Te Kuiti, Katikati, Temuka, Waihi, Waipukurau, Warkworth, Carterton, Dargaville, Opotiki, Snells Beach, Te Aroha, Wairoa, Paeroa and Westport.

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The fact about a low update of UFB isnt that much true now. I am seeing many more people on UFB. Its getting main stream (like VDSL) and starting to pickup faster.




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  Reply # 1122325 5-Sep-2014 09:33
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My daughter and providing as much stability for her is my priority "going forward" so staying close to her friends and school in Outram is key for the time being, we have a renter just around the corner. Fibre duct passes us on the other side of the road.

But yes each house I look at does have a search on the Chorus network site done.

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  Reply # 1122347 5-Sep-2014 09:49
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NZtimbo: Such a waste...

According to the Chorus Network Map ALL the towns announced on that list curently have VDSL capability, with such a low take up of UFB they should have put the money into a better cause like helping the many "Black Spot" towns like Outram.  Might have given them more brownie points.


I'm not sure what point you're trying to make by that. Most areas that have UFB at present have VDSL2 as well.

This announcement is about expansion of UFB, it's nothing to do with expansion of RBI, which itself was a different announcement.

The towns and cities were chosen based on population predictions looking forward to 2020. In effect they're the next most populous cities after those that are getting UFB at present.




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Its good to see the far north towns getting UFB, kerikeri is one that deserves it.




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  Reply # 1122477 5-Sep-2014 12:05
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Exactly that, most areas with VDSL are getting UFB.  Little benifit other than to those that consume the interwebz and see a value in changing.  Everyone else will stay status quo cause it does what they want when viewing lol catz.

Whereas those areas with congested ADSL1 would benifit more.  I know we talking Urban UFB vs Rural RBI but still more larger towns get given and smaller rural areas get given and us in the middle have to contest for funding or pay to move.

It is good though that the extra funding is being put forward for both Urban and Rural interwebz.

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  Reply # 1122479 5-Sep-2014 12:09
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Yeah its quite good that they are putting money forward, I hear Outram is covered by RBI, Good speeds and not congested. far superior to the ADSL1 there currently.




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Record player still broken... ;-)

298G last month, Wireless RBI can''t happen here...

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