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  Reply # 1122782 5-Sep-2014 21:49
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My daughter and providing as much stability for her is my priority "going forward" so staying close to her friends and school in Outram is key for the time being, we have a renter just around the corner. Fibre duct passes us on the other side of the road.

But yes each house I look at does have a search on the Chorus network site done.

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Also,  I've provided a detailed response to the Commerce Committee but the the impending election the Petition will be tabled after that. 

It is good that both the Labour and National parties have put forward policies to help us Rural areas out a bit ... 

Tim 


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  Reply # 1122784 5-Sep-2014 21:52
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Also,  I've provided a detailed response to the Commerce Committee but the the impending election the Petition will be tabled after that. 

It is good that both the Labour and National parties have put forward policies to help us Rural areas out a bit ... 

Tim 





All i can really say... If it does indeed work in your favour, ill take my hat off to you ;) 




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  Reply # 1122800 5-Sep-2014 22:15
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My daughter and providing as much stability for her is my priority "going forward" so staying close to her friends and school in Outram is key for the time being, we have a renter just around the corner. Fibre duct passes us on the other side of the road.

But yes each house I look at does have a search on the Chorus network site done.

Tim


Also,  I've provided a detailed response to the Commerce Committee but the the impending election the Petition will be tabled after that. 

It is good that both the Labour and National parties have put forward policies to help us Rural areas out a bit ... 

Tim 


Sorry didn't see your response. Could you maybe go closer to Mosgiel? Maybe halfway between Outram and Mosgiel, yet still close enough to Outram and still get copper? That's probably your best bet at the moment.

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  Reply # 1123101 6-Sep-2014 13:38
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We're on an Exchange, all Cabinets around us are getting ADSL2/VDSL2 upgrades.

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Yes it is as bad as I claim it is, refer the graph on the very first post, while I can get line rate at night when sleeping downloading Linux ISO's and backups, during the evening when you want to watch Lightbox streams as I tried with the Invite I got (thank you Lightbox) the congestion makes that type of modern usage impossible.  Wireless RBI with our usage is not going to happen unless we see basically unlimited when 4G happens.  Wireless ISP is an option but moving into "The Renter" causes issues in the short term, for us at least. 

We do have a lot of interest in town for a better service and whoever actually delivers a better service in the end and markets it well could end up with a nice earner.

Tim


Still not seeing a Congestion complaint for Outram Exchange, as requested or any details PM'd of your line, address etc.

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  Reply # 1123102 6-Sep-2014 13:39
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NZtimbo: @michaelmurfy
We're on an Exchange, all Cabinets around us are getting ADSL2/VDSL2 upgrades.

@sbiddle
Yes it is as bad as I claim it is, refer the graph on the very first post, while I can get line rate at night when sleeping downloading Linux ISO's and backups, during the evening when you want to watch Lightbox streams as I tried with the Invite I got (thank you Lightbox) the congestion makes that type of modern usage impossible.  Wireless RBI with our usage is not going to happen unless we see basically unlimited when 4G happens.  Wireless ISP is an option but moving into "The Renter" causes issues in the short term, for us at least. 

We do have a lot of interest in town for a better service and whoever actually delivers a better service in the end and markets it well could end up with a nice earner.

Tim


Still not seeing a Congestion complaint for Outram Exchange, as requested or any details PM'd of your line, address etc.  Do you want help or not?


I laugh at this, There was a thread about slow speed on a vodafone Cable connection. No ticket logged until i asked a 3rd time..




 


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  Reply # 1123108 6-Sep-2014 13:45
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NZtimbo: @michaelmurfy
We're on an Exchange, all Cabinets around us are getting ADSL2/VDSL2 upgrades.

@sbiddle
Yes it is as bad as I claim it is, refer the graph on the very first post, while I can get line rate at night when sleeping downloading Linux ISO's and backups, during the evening when you want to watch Lightbox streams as I tried with the Invite I got (thank you Lightbox) the congestion makes that type of modern usage impossible.  Wireless RBI with our usage is not going to happen unless we see basically unlimited when 4G happens.  Wireless ISP is an option but moving into "The Renter" causes issues in the short term, for us at least. 

We do have a lot of interest in town for a better service and whoever actually delivers a better service in the end and markets it well could end up with a nice earner.

Tim


Still not seeing a Congestion complaint for Outram Exchange, as requested or any details PM'd of your line, address etc.  Do you want help or not?


I find it quite ironic that you can have a local meeting with a large number of people, including Clare Curran who has been very vocal about this issue, and yet as you point out not a single customer has logged a fault.



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  Reply # 1123109 6-Sep-2014 13:47
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NZtimbo: @michaelmurfy
We're on an Exchange, all Cabinets around us are getting ADSL2/VDSL2 upgrades.

@sbiddle
Yes it is as bad as I claim it is, refer the graph on the very first post, while I can get line rate at night when sleeping downloading Linux ISO's and backups, during the evening when you want to watch Lightbox streams as I tried with the Invite I got (thank you Lightbox) the congestion makes that type of modern usage impossible.  Wireless RBI with our usage is not going to happen unless we see basically unlimited when 4G happens.  Wireless ISP is an option but moving into "The Renter" causes issues in the short term, for us at least. 

We do have a lot of interest in town for a better service and whoever actually delivers a better service in the end and markets it well could end up with a nice earner.

Tim


Still not seeing a Congestion complaint for Outram Exchange, as requested or any details PM'd of your line, address etc.  Do you want help or not?


I find it quite ironic that you can have a local meeting with a large number of people, including Clare Curran who has been very vocal about this issue, and yet as you point out not a single customer has logged a fault.




this... it all seems very backwards...

sure, a single complaint isnt going to do much compared to a big rally and meeting, but it all adds up eventually...




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I would have thought at this meeting one of the topics would be to get everyone to log a congestion complaint with their ISPs. One complaint isn't going to be noticed but if it's affecting 50+ users who all make complaints then someone might take notice.

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  Reply # 1123128 6-Sep-2014 14:18

If New Zealand had a second international cable, rather than just the Sothern Cross Cable, Outram would have UFB.  We need more international bandwidth in our country. 

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Bobdn: If New Zealand had a second international cable, rather than just the Sothern Cross Cable, Outram would have UFB.  We need more international bandwidth in our country. 


not sure if bleeding sarcasm or serious..... 




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Bobdn: If New Zealand had a second international cable, rather than just the Sothern Cross Cable, Outram would have UFB.  We need more international bandwidth in our country. 


Thanks, I was having a pretty boring day at work but thanks, I laughed for the last 5 minutes after reading this.





 


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  Reply # 1123131 6-Sep-2014 14:25
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Bobdn: If New Zealand had a second international cable, rather than just the Sothern Cross Cable, Outram would have UFB.  We need more international bandwidth in our country. 


You're joking, right?





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  Reply # 1123144 6-Sep-2014 14:44
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Through my ISP (Slingshot) I did do a congestion complaint around the 24th March and Chorus did charge a NFF (because they are supplying above 32kbps) which Slingshot were very gracious to not pass onto me.  I would be reluctant to suggest to families here to log the same complaints as it would be unfair on them if their chosen ISP did not absorb the same fee.

I am sure Chorus are well aware of their congestion issues on their network and suggesting otherwise would only show how inept they are at looking after their customers and hiding behind a 2007 requirement based on dial-up usage of the Internet.  We are in 2014 and Chorus really need to step up and not suggest that they are going to let their EUBA network succumb to the same congestion the BUBA network has as they are with their current ComCom filings.

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(off to start the fire...)

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Chorus wouldnt charge a NFF for diagnosing that its congested and advising that.
I bet your ISP decided to do a truck roll.

I am sure Chorus are well aware of their congestion issues on their network and suggesting otherwise would only show how inept they are at looking after their customers and hiding behind a 2007 requirement based on dial-up usage of the Internet.  We are in 2014 and Chorus really need to step up and not suggest that they are going to let their EUBA network succumb to the same congestion the BUBA network has as they are with their current ComCom filings.


The copper network hasnt changed much since 2007, broadband technologies have not advanced. Copper is being phased out. Its completely still relevant. Its that pr0n is now 1080p and people complain. <- thought i would add that as no one takes this seriously no more.
You are getting 10x the regulated throughput, I know people that barely scrape it and they accept its due to where they live. Outram has RBI and 2 WISP's. Those people i know have not got RBI and no WISP's.




 




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  Reply # 1123163 6-Sep-2014 15:16
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Having more competition with additional links out of / into NZ wouldn't help in this instance as the fault is on the Chorus network from the local exchange to the handover point for my ISP.  It affect all traffic to all ISP's...

pR0n aside the interwebz is vastly more "rich" than 2007 when the 32kbps rate was instigated and now used as a minimum level...

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