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#1130885 17-Sep-2014 18:10

Tim is testing at the wrong time? Or Michael Murphy was testing at the wrong time?

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#1130961 17-Sep-2014 19:49

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Handle9: Just to be clear NZTimbo I consider your family friendly rhetoric to be irrational bordering on farcical. I think that this thread has turned into a joke thread others feel the same.

Definitely not. It would be rude to not pay our respects to Kirwee, with their Internet problems.

Sorry I should think of the children

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#1131088 17-Sep-2014 22:34

quickymart: Tim is testing at the wrong time? Or Michael Murphy was testing at the wrong time?

Probably testing before Tim gets his downloads running then wonders why his internet is running bad. The congestion is a lie, it is there but no-where as bad as Tim states.

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#1131095 17-Sep-2014 22:41

Maybe you could pay a visit to Kirwee as well and conduct a similar test? I'll be interested to see if it's as bad as they say it is.

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#1131099 17-Sep-2014 22:50

quickymart: Maybe you could pay a visit to Kirwee as well and conduct a similar test? I'll be interested to see if it's as bad as they say it is.

Heading back north now but I do have 2x friends there - I did ask them to conduct a few tests at different times and give me a general report, in summery:

1) Yes, there is congestion around dinner time but the internet is still usable.
2) Ping is average at times with around 60-120ms (these guys are gamers).
3) "" would like VDSL however ""'s internet is fine for general use.
4) YouTube plays fine at nearly all times, noticed at around 6pm it can't play high quality but still plays.

I think both "reps" from both towns are making their town look the worst possible to justify getting an upgrade, what they forget is Chorus can see total bandwidth utilization on the cabinet and I can confirm that both these cabinets are really not as loaded as both these reps are putting them out as being. Outram really isn't overloaded at all and there is no reason Tim's connection should be running this slow but it is. There are many factors with ADSL that'll contribute to these slow speeds but there really hasn't been enough people really showing any evidence of slow "unusable" speeds.

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#1131302 18-Sep-2014 11:13

@michaelmurfy
Really... Outram has an Exchange not cabinet. Do you really think I'd sabotage my own results? The Exchange has enough DSLAM's to cover the town however the backhaul performance has degraded substantially over time, graph below showing the difference from July 2013 to July 2014, test from my server is a 1meg file hosted on my ISP every half hour then averaged, note this is the average NOT highest or Lowest I've posted other graphs that show that.

How do we classify "general use" reading news articles, geekzone forum posts, looking at lolz cat pictures, yes and that sort of usage does not require fibre or VDSL type speeds. Multiple people in houses now wanting to watch TV (lightbox, iSky, ondemand etc), movies (VideoEzy etc do require a higher throughput connection or watch lolz cats videos do require a higher throughput connection. I subscribe to Digitally Imported Music, I can stream all day with no issues until the evening, every evening.

The issue for both Outram and Kirwee is clearly the Chorus backhaul, both Outram and Kirwee residents (and other towns in the same situation) are paying full price for a degrading service.

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#1131350 18-Sep-2014 12:31

could you make that graph bigger or direct link?

my half awake eyes cant read it :/

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#1131469 18-Sep-2014 14:41

Sure, please deposit $1m into my beer fund...

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#1131472 18-Sep-2014 14:44

NZtimbo: Sure, please deposit $1m into my beer fund...

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was actually a serious question.. im not posting here to troll you, even if this thread may be a laughing joke at this point for most.

While i do agree, you may have wireless options, i can understand your frustration, and im not about to poke sticks at that.

I can make out what it says now that im awake properly though. Interesting graph.

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#1131498 18-Sep-2014 15:01

NZtimbo:
The issue for both Outram and Kirwee is clearly the Chorus backhaul, both Outram and Kirwee residents (and other towns in the same situation) are paying full price for a degrading service.

Tim

This is still a very bold assumption to make without necessarily any evidence to back that up. Can you exclude it being a UBA congestion due to the 75kbps dimensioning?

If it is there is no fault as such, and Chorus want to increase this to 150kbps but are being shot down in flames by the regulator for wanting to offer this as part of their network upgrades.

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#1131575 18-Sep-2014 16:36

NZtimbo: @michaelmurfy
Really... Outram has an Exchange not cabinet. <SNIP>

The issue for both Outram and Kirwee is clearly the Chorus backhaul, both Outram and Kirwee residents (and other towns in the same situation) are paying full price for a degrading service.

Tim

I say Cabinet as often that's what it is, I am aware that this is an "exchange" - the issue is not due to the Chorus network, it is working as designed.

Like I say, I know many people on ASAM's just like yours and they don't have issues with their connection. I am streaming Netflix in HD on a connection like yours so something doesn't add up with your connection - your Exchange is not congested.

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#1131615 18-Sep-2014 17:27

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instead of trying to get put on UFB why dont you try to pertition to get higher data caps on the already provided RBI in your area? to me that makes more sense and is going to cost the least amount.

hope off the we need UFB band wagon considering you already have RBI there

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#1131710 18-Sep-2014 19:08

I'm still waiting for Tim to tell us what the MBIE or Commerce Commission have said about his issue, because I'd assume after me continually saying to contact them that he would have done this by now.

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#1131711 18-Sep-2014 19:09

sbiddle: I'm still waiting for Tim to tell us what the MBIE or Commerce Commission have said about his issue, because I'd assume after me continually saying to contact them that he would have done this by now.

suppose snail mail is extra slow in outram?

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#1131718 18-Sep-2014 19:19

@hio77 don't you mean 'congested' snail mail.

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