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  Reply # 1067814 17-Jun-2014 19:14
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NZtimbo: mmm er last time I used less that 30G data;embarassed
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Best to make use of the resources you have at your dispense.
This is starting to sound like a squeaky wheel...



And this is where squeaky wheel will get the oil wink 


Sad how the loudest voice get heard first in most cases.

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  Reply # 1067817 17-Jun-2014 19:18
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^^^

What's the saying? "The early squeaky wheel catches the most worms." Or something like that. tongue-out




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  Reply # 1067826 17-Jun-2014 19:30
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jonb: When you look at the Chorus Network Availability map for the areas around Dunedin, it does seem strange that you have been left out.  With the Broadband filter and the RBI DSL filter applied, there are much more rural areas than Outram which are covered by a congestion-free fibre fed cabinet.

I wonder how the lifestyle blocks around Mount Cargill managed to bag themselves an VDSL capable RBI cabinet? A cynical person might think someone important in the decision making process lives there..



Must be for future growth , I have wondered that myself in Waitati valley but I guess if the area was air marked under the RBI to deliver  fixed line services , Chorus was only going to put in a new RBI bullet cabinet not a old Conklin like we have in Warrington and other areas alike . 

Conklins are still better than nothing. Would you rather have dialup?

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  Reply # 1067830 17-Jun-2014 19:46
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TimA:Sad how the loudest voice get heard first in most cases.

Well, if you don't say anything you'll get nothing.

The real issue is when groups think that because they're the loudest, they're the majority. 99% comes to mind.

We do not think we're the majority.




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  Reply # 1067832 17-Jun-2014 19:47
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TimA:
Axeman480:
TimA:
NZtimbo: mmm er last time I used less that 30G data;embarassed
March 2009 22,096.1530


Best to make use of the resources you have at your dispense.
This is starting to sound like a squeaky wheel...



And this is where squeaky wheel will get the oil wink 


Sad how the loudest voice get heard first in most cases.


Perhaps, but at the same time 'we' often say if you want something you have to go get it.




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  Reply # 1067834 17-Jun-2014 19:49
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TimA:
Axeman480:
TimA:
NZtimbo: mmm er last time I used less that 30G data;embarassed
March 2009 22,096.1530


Best to make use of the resources you have at your dispense.
This is starting to sound like a squeaky wheel...



And this is where squeaky wheel will get the oil wink 


Sad how the loudest voice get heard first in most cases.


Perhaps, but at the same time 'we' often say if you want something you have to go get it.


Yes thats true...

Ill be making a thread to have everyone on geekzone sign to get the cables re routed so they are 20m instead of 400m at my house. Lets see if the concept works :)

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  Reply # 1067849 17-Jun-2014 20:24
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Axeman480:
jonb: When you look at the Chorus Network Availability map for the areas around Dunedin, it does seem strange that you have been left out.  With the Broadband filter and the RBI DSL filter applied, there are much more rural areas than Outram which are covered by a congestion-free fibre fed cabinet.

I wonder how the lifestyle blocks around Mount Cargill managed to bag themselves an VDSL capable RBI cabinet? A cynical person might think someone important in the decision making process lives there..



Must be for future growth , I have wondered that myself in Waitati valley but I guess if the area was air marked under the RBI to deliver  fixed line services , Chorus was only going to put in a new RBI bullet cabinet not a old Conklin like we have in Warrington and other areas alike . 

Conklins are still better than nothing. Would you rather have dialup?


Conklin's were only a  temporary measure  installed by Telecom, under the FTTN program most of them should have  been replaced , but I guess Chorus changes there minds after the split.  Dial up been there done that 1997 - 2004. Nope sticking to my guns, the fibre cable was in the ground already for a FTTN cabinet upgrade in Warrington. 

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  Reply # 1067950 17-Jun-2014 22:19
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http://www.gowifi.co.nz/index.php?option=com_us_retailer&view=region&Itemid=36 and try contacting the other providers.  Google street view shows the town has lovely LOS to plenty of suitable antenna sites.

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quickymart:
Axeman480:
jonb: When you look at the Chorus Network Availability map for the areas around Dunedin, it does seem strange that you have been left out.  With the Broadband filter and the RBI DSL filter applied, there are much more rural areas than Outram which are covered by a congestion-free fibre fed cabinet.

I wonder how the lifestyle blocks around Mount Cargill managed to bag themselves an VDSL capable RBI cabinet? A cynical person might think someone important in the decision making process lives there..



Must be for future growth , I have wondered that myself in Waitati valley but I guess if the area was air marked under the RBI to deliver  fixed line services , Chorus was only going to put in a new RBI bullet cabinet not a old Conklin like we have in Warrington and other areas alike . 

Conklins are still better than nothing. Would you rather have dialup?


Conklin's were only a  temporary measure  installed by Telecom, under the FTTN program most of them should have  been replaced , but I guess Chorus changes there minds after the split.  Dial up been there done that 1997 - 2004. Nope sticking to my guns, the fibre cable was in the ground already for a FTTN cabinet upgrade in Warrington. 

You know how many Conklins there are, right? Lots and lots. Again (as mentioned earlier in this thread) the cost of replacing them all with fibre (or whatever) isn't cheap, or free. You seem to be in a similar situation to Outram as your population numbers are almost the same.
Wireless isn't an option?

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  Reply # 1068081 18-Jun-2014 06:15
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quickymart:
Axeman480:
jonb: When you look at the Chorus Network Availability map for the areas around Dunedin, it does seem strange that you have been left out.  With the Broadband filter and the RBI DSL filter applied, there are much more rural areas than Outram which are covered by a congestion-free fibre fed cabinet.

I wonder how the lifestyle blocks around Mount Cargill managed to bag themselves an VDSL capable RBI cabinet? A cynical person might think someone important in the decision making process lives there..



Must be for future growth , I have wondered that myself in Waitati valley but I guess if the area was air marked under the RBI to deliver  fixed line services , Chorus was only going to put in a new RBI bullet cabinet not a old Conklin like we have in Warrington and other areas alike . 

Conklins are still better than nothing. Would you rather have dialup?


Conklin's were only a  temporary measure  installed by Telecom, under the FTTN program most of them should have  been replaced , but I guess Chorus changes there minds after the split.  Dial up been there done that 1997 - 2004. Nope sticking to my guns, the fibre cable was in the ground already for a FTTN cabinet upgrade in Warrington. 


Conklin's were not a temporary measure. They were a permanent solution to provide internet to areas where broadband was not available and they were rolled out at a very rapid rate to meet demand for broadband as they were an easy cost effective deployment because Telecom would simply use E1s for backhaul.

Unfortunately they're now a nightmare, with a person I know involved in the rollout who now actually regrets they ever happened because they're a major headache that in most cases has no solution. There were never any plans to replace them all, however many are being replaced as part of the RBI rollout. There will however be hundreds that will still remain, with RBI wireless primarily being the solution in those areas.



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  Reply # 1068188 18-Jun-2014 09:49
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Axeman480:
quickymart:
Axeman480:
jonb: When you look at the Chorus Network Availability map for the areas around Dunedin, it does seem strange that you have been left out.  With the Broadband filter and the RBI DSL filter applied, there are much more rural areas than Outram which are covered by a congestion-free fibre fed cabinet.

I wonder how the lifestyle blocks around Mount Cargill managed to bag themselves an VDSL capable RBI cabinet? A cynical person might think someone important in the decision making process lives there..



Must be for future growth , I have wondered that myself in Waitati valley but I guess if the area was air marked under the RBI to deliver  fixed line services , Chorus was only going to put in a new RBI bullet cabinet not a old Conklin like we have in Warrington and other areas alike . 

Conklins are still better than nothing. Would you rather have dialup?


Conklin's were only a  temporary measure  installed by Telecom, under the FTTN program most of them should have  been replaced , but I guess Chorus changes there minds after the split.  Dial up been there done that 1997 - 2004. Nope sticking to my guns, the fibre cable was in the ground already for a FTTN cabinet upgrade in Warrington. 

You know how many Conklins there are, right? Lots and lots. Again (as mentioned earlier in this thread) the cost of replacing them all with fibre (or whatever) isn't cheap, or free. You seem to be in a similar situation to Outram as your population numbers are almost the same.
Wireless isn't an option?


Yes we have had a new RBI fixed wireless tower for the last 2 years but as most of us are Telecom fixed lines DSL customers its a hard sell when comparing the 2 services even if the DSL is congested in peak times. question, what is the range on one of those towers LOS and any idea of real world speeds and latency if tower was lets say under 1km los?
As for the data and install pricing mentioned before its also a big turn off and needs to be addressed.

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Yes we have had a new RBI fixed wireless tower for the last 2 years but as most of us are Telecom fixed lines DSL customers its a hard sell when comparing the 2 services. question, what is the range on one of those towers LOS and any idea of real world speeds and latency if tower was lets say under 1km los?
As for the data and install pricing mentioned before its also a big turn off and needs to be addressed.   


I keep hearing the install pricing is a big issue for people. Is paying $49.95-$199 for an install really a huge deal?

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Axeman480:
Yes we have had a new RBI fixed wireless tower for the last 2 years but as most of us are Telecom fixed lines DSL customers its a hard sell when comparing the 2 services. question, what is the range on one of those towers LOS and any idea of real world speeds and latency if tower was lets say under 1km los?
As for the data and install pricing mentioned before its also a big turn off and needs to be addressed.   


I keep hearing the install pricing is a big issue for people. Is paying $49.95-$199 for an install really a huge deal?


It is if you already pay $100 a month and the termination cost for swapping to another provider because Telecom wont resale RBI wireless , all adds up , plus will loose ports on cabinet and would be very hard to get back if RBI wireless not going to suit latency / data price etc. Just a real hassle, Chorus should just get on and replace the cabinet that would suit everyone in Warrington, it was on Telecom's to do list before the split.   

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Axeman480:
Yes we have had a new RBI fixed wireless tower for the last 2 years but as most of us are Telecom fixed lines DSL customers its a hard sell when comparing the 2 services. question, what is the range on one of those towers LOS and any idea of real world speeds and latency if tower was lets say under 1km los?
As for the data and install pricing mentioned before its also a big turn off and needs to be addressed.   


I keep hearing the install pricing is a big issue for people. Is paying $49.95-$199 for an install really a huge deal?


It is if you already pay $100 a month and the termination cost for swapping to another provider because Telecom wont resale RBI wireless , all adds up , plus will loose ports on cabinet and would be very hard to get back if RBI wireless not going to suit latency / data price etc. Just a real hassle, Chorus should just get on and replace the cabinet that would suit everyone in Warrington, it was on Telecom's to do list before the split.   


Where did you get that information from?

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Axeman480:
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Axeman480:
Yes we have had a new RBI fixed wireless tower for the last 2 years but as most of us are Telecom fixed lines DSL customers its a hard sell when comparing the 2 services. question, what is the range on one of those towers LOS and any idea of real world speeds and latency if tower was lets say under 1km los?
As for the data and install pricing mentioned before its also a big turn off and needs to be addressed.   


I keep hearing the install pricing is a big issue for people. Is paying $49.95-$199 for an install really a huge deal?


It is if you already pay $100 a month and the termination cost for swapping to another provider because Telecom wont resale RBI wireless , all adds up , plus will loose ports on cabinet and would be very hard to get back if RBI wireless not going to suit latency / data price etc. Just a real hassle, Chorus should just get on and replace the cabinet that would suit everyone in Warrington, it was on Telecom's to do list before the split.   


Where did you get that information from?


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0708/S00288.htm

November_2008_Cabinetisation_Notice_and_Cabinetisation_Forecast.xls

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK0907/S00215.htm

then along came the RBI , Telecom/chorus split .



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