Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

Topic # 147420 18-Jun-2014 18:32
Send private message

Hi,

I got 2 VDSL lines. Both are 440m long roughly and have master filters etc.
Vodafone line as seen in this spectrum graph:

Vs the exact same length BigPipe:


The provider doesnt matter here. Obviously there is something up on the big pipe line. Generally its 10Mbp/s slower than the Vodafone one. I think the trained eye can see why. I emailed BP and got a ticket submitted. Chorus came back telling me DLM was doing something. Both lines are DLM-1 and remain till now on DLM-1 with 12SNR and 9 attenuation. So not DLM causing an issue.
Would we suggest as degraded copper? I dont get any errors on the line at all. Not sure of FEC's as Fritz 6.06 doesnt show those.



My money is on degraded copper and joins just need to be remade, but feedback is appreciated.
@BigPipe i think i need Chorus.






Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
4843 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1504


  Reply # 1068780 18-Jun-2014 19:04
Send private message

It's probably within spec for sync rate, so unless it's dropping out, you might not get any change...



5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

  Reply # 1068800 18-Jun-2014 19:17
Send private message

RunningMan: It's probably within spec for sync rate, so unless it's dropping out, you might not get any change...


Haha, Probably the case.
Still something is up with a line that scratchy.




Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


6434 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1571


  Reply # 1068807 18-Jun-2014 19:33
Send private message

I understand that copper degrades when it isn't used, so I wonder if the second line, not having seen use for many years potentially, has degraded. Or does it not work like that?



5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

  Reply # 1068808 18-Jun-2014 19:34
Send private message

NonprayingMantis: I understand that copper degrades when it isn't used, so I wonder if the second line, not having seen use for many years potentially, has degraded. Or does it not work like that?


Maybe, Not sure but possible. I am leaning towards a bad joint.




Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


876 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 572

Trusted

  Reply # 1068817 18-Jun-2014 19:56
Send private message

I would say it's probably a degraded joint. At my old place we use to get them  2-3 weeks after every good storm and need them re done. 

420 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 83

Trusted
Chorus NZ

  Reply # 1081576 5-Jul-2014 19:34
Send private message

Depends on multiple factors, including Multiples on the line, Copper Diameter, services on the same cable etc etc.  Remember connection speed is best efforts above 15Mbps (or whatever it is) for VDSL.

876 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 572

Trusted

  Reply # 1081579 5-Jul-2014 19:42
Send private message

Although, I don't think you have much room to complain now with yourr 60Mbit or what ever it was VDSL

304 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 66


  Reply # 1081600 5-Jul-2014 20:31
One person supports this post
Send private message

If they are both in the same cable then youll be suffering cross talk



5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

  Reply # 1081614 5-Jul-2014 21:00
Send private message

Cbfd: If they are both in the same cable then youll be suffering cross talk


Check this out for a cross talk machine, Long wait for 17a has arrived on my line. Was at 66Mbp/s on 9dB SNR profile.





Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


304 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 66


  Reply # 1081631 5-Jul-2014 21:39
2 people support this post
Send private message

Did chorus fix anythng on your line?



5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

  Reply # 1081632 5-Jul-2014 21:42
Send private message

Cbfd: Did chorus fix anythng on your line?


No, No such doing of Chorus.
(DLM)

I stared at it and threatened the DSLAM with fire and German automobile.




Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


Mad Scientist
18433 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2336

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1081636 5-Jul-2014 21:58
Send private message

Sorry but does voda use different copper?



5765 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1710

Trusted

  Reply # 1081637 5-Jul-2014 22:09
Send private message

joker97: Sorry but does voda use different copper?


Umm, Obviously silver wiring given its the most conductive tangible metal. 




Steam: Coil (Same photos as profile here)
Origin: Scranax
Currently playing on PC: Rust, Subnautica, CS:GO, AOE2 HD, BeamNG Drive, BF1.


Mad Scientist
18433 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2336

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1081641 5-Jul-2014 22:21
Send private message

As in, does voda use a different wire from big pipe?

573 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 216


  Reply # 1081642 5-Jul-2014 22:25
One person supports this post
Send private message

joker97: As in, does voda use a different wire from big pipe?


It's all the same wire. 







 1 | 2 | 3
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

N4L helping TAKA Trust bridge the digital divide for Lower Hutt students
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:08


Winners Announced for 2018 CIO Awards
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:03


Logitech Rally sets new standard for USB-connected video conference cameras
Posted 18-Jun-2018 09:27


Russell Stanners steps down as Vodafone NZ CEO
Posted 12-Jun-2018 09:13


Intergen recognised as 2018 Microsoft Country Partner of the Year for New Zealand
Posted 12-Jun-2018 08:00


Finalists Announced For Microsoft NZ Partner Awards
Posted 6-Jun-2018 15:12


Vocus Group and Vodafone announce joint venture to accelerate fibre innovation
Posted 5-Jun-2018 10:52


Kogan.com to launch Kogan Mobile in New Zealand
Posted 4-Jun-2018 14:34


Enable doubles fibre broadband speeds for its most popular wholesale service in Christchurch
Posted 2-Jun-2018 20:07


All or Nothing: New Zealand All Blacks arrives on Amazon Prime Video
Posted 2-Jun-2018 16:21


Innovation Grant, High Tech Awards and new USA office for Kiwi tech company SwipedOn
Posted 1-Jun-2018 20:54


Commerce Commission warns Apple for misleading consumers about their rights
Posted 30-May-2018 13:15


IBM leads Call for Code to use cloud, data, AI, blockchain for natural disaster relief
Posted 25-May-2018 14:12


New FUJIFILM X-T100 aims to do better job than smartphones
Posted 24-May-2018 20:17


Stuff takes 100% ownership of Stuff Fibre
Posted 24-May-2018 19:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.