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  Reply # 1079489 3-Jul-2014 16:41
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@OP if you end up stuck with that install I suggest you prime the brackets and pipe with a suitable etch primer and paint with a dull light brown or something that helps it blend in (nothing too dark).  This will minimise the visual impact, and extend the life of the PVC.







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  Reply # 1079490 3-Jul-2014 16:42
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Owner or insurance would cover it if it was damaged IMO. Wear and tear would be chorus.




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  Reply # 1079491 3-Jul-2014 16:43
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Also in that location I think you would have to try quite hard to hit it with a car.




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  Reply # 1079503 3-Jul-2014 16:53
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mailmarshall: My question is who pays for new install if someone hits the driveway conduit and breaks the fibre? The owner, fibre company or insurance?


That's one of the questions in my original post. I think it would be the fibre company as it's outside my property?

Just like if copper line is damaged before gets into my property the phone company should fix it?

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  Reply # 1079509 3-Jul-2014 16:55
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@ starcub:
Did they ever give you the option of going under your driveway provided you paid for some of the installation costs?




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  Reply # 1079510 3-Jul-2014 16:57
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DarthKermit: @ starcub:
Did they ever give you the option of going under your driveway provided you paid for some of the installation costs?


No. I didn't pay installation cost. I signed a 12 months contract with Slingshot and they said the installation will be free. 

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  Reply # 1079511 3-Jul-2014 16:58
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mailmarshall: My question is who pays for new install if someone hits the driveway conduit and breaks the fibre? The owner, fibre company or insurance?


That's one of the questions in my original post. I think it would be the fibre company as it's outside my property?

Just like if copper line is damaged before gets into my property the phone company should fix it?


Chorus own the network to the ONT. Who pays for what might be decided when it happens.
I think if someone hit that conduit and even then if damage was caused they would get a star!

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  Reply # 1079512 3-Jul-2014 17:00
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I guess that the devil is in the details then. What exactly did your "free installation" entail?

I agree with your original post: the installation doesn't look flash and will it deteriorate over time?




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  Reply # 1079518 3-Jul-2014 17:03
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KiwiME: Clearly 20th century craftsmanship is dead.


No Craftmanship isnt dead  

Can you PM me the location and details of you job and Ill also pass this on the the Downer QA team



KiwiME - thanks for the info -  I have passed it on to the Downer QA team ( I couldnt reply directly to your PM as you have PM replys/contacts turned off)

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  Reply # 1079519 3-Jul-2014 17:04
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starcub:
mailmarshall: My question is who pays for new install if someone hits the driveway conduit and breaks the fibre? The owner, fibre company or insurance?


That's one of the questions in my original post. I think it would be the fibre company as it's outside my property?

Just like if copper line is damaged before gets into my property the phone company should fix it?


Chorus own the network to the ONT. Who pays for what might be decided when it happens.
I think if someone hit that conduit and even then if damage was caused they would get a star!


right, that settles it then!

@starcub keep TimA away from your fence, save yourself having to give out a star :P




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  Reply # 1079520 3-Jul-2014 17:04
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It more likely to get damaged from maintenance. eg Weeds growing up along fence line. Then using a weedwacker would likely damage it. Or if the fence gets distorted by something hitting it, it will likely snap the pipe and fibre. So I certainly wouldn't be too happy having it connected to a fence, which can move around quite a bit, even in the wind.. They would be better to attach it to something far more solid, like concrete. You could also box over it in timber, so (a) you don't see it, and (b) it is then protected.

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  Reply # 1079529 3-Jul-2014 17:11
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mattwnz: It more likely to get damaged from maintenance. eg Weeds growing up along fence line. Then using a weedwacker would likely damage it. Or if the fence gets distorted by something hitting it, it will likely snap the pipe and fibre. So I certainly wouldn't be too happy having it connected to a fence, which can move around quite a bit, even in the wind.. They would be better to attach it to something far more solid, like concrete. You could also box over it in timber, so (a) you don't see it, and (b) it is then protected.


ild hope a weedwacker wouldnt go through the pipe... the sturdiness of the fence reminds me of a few weeks back here with all the strong wind and storms actually...

would have hated to wake up to find not only the fence had broken and fallen over, but the fiber had been tugged and damaged in the process.






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  Reply # 1079658 3-Jul-2014 21:38
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This whole UFB network is really going to sh1t.

This latest form of "install" is just absolute madness. While it hasn't been uncommon in the past to put things on the fence it has never been a truly "accepted" form of installation. It just leaves it open to so much more abuse! They stopped putting in pillars for fibre (good move!) and yet now they pop out of the ground and run along a fence.

The other way they are doing installs now are with "rugged" microduct that only has to be buried 200-300mm. That's barely a spade depth!! That is taking things back to the way 049's were installed 30 years ago - just push your shovel in and slide the cable down the back. Like come on, someone will go and re-dig their garden and rip up a fibre!!

As for internal installations, things are going to be much much worse when the contractors get shifted to a code based payment scheme rather than the current charge-up one. UFB installers will take on the "Sky TV standard" of just get it done as fast as possible and who cares what it looks like.

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  Reply # 1079663 3-Jul-2014 21:51
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chevrolux: This whole UFB network is really going to sh1t.

This latest form of "install" is just absolute madness. While it hasn't been uncommon in the past to put things on the fence it has never been a truly "accepted" form of installation. It just leaves it open to so much more abuse! They stopped putting in pillars for fibre (good move!) and yet now they pop out of the ground and run along a fence.

The other way they are doing installs now are with "rugged" microduct that only has to be buried 200-300mm. That's barely a spade depth!! That is taking things back to the way 049's were installed 30 years ago - just push your shovel in and slide the cable down the back. Like come on, someone will go and re-dig their garden and rip up a fibre!!

As for internal installations, things are going to be much much worse when the contractors get shifted to a code based payment scheme rather than the current charge-up one. UFB installers will take on the "Sky TV standard" of just get it done as fast as possible and who cares what it looks like.


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I understand that some installs are going to cost more than Chorus predicted but I am sure there a lot of installs that cost well below what they have predicted for as well.   

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  Reply # 1079688 3-Jul-2014 23:22
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bet chorus are still making a profit, so why do they care about the workmanship.

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