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  Reply # 1103647 6-Aug-2014 20:58
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I found a couple of old TCL Surfboards on the side of the road

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  Reply # 1103689 6-Aug-2014 21:46
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My understanding is Chorus may bill the RSP for failing to ensure it remained on the property. Who in turn may bill the ex-customer. Not sure of the specific legalities but as everyone else has said they are basically a very poor door stop and wouldn't function without Chorus provisioning it.





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  Reply # 1103707 6-Aug-2014 22:38
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vexxxboy: i have one installed and at no time was i told that it wasnt mine and not to remove it . The only way i knew was reading it here , what about the average citizen who would have no idea. 


If you signed the concent to install (which you must have to get an installation)  then you should have read it,  as it plainly says the equipement isnt yours and remains the property of Chorus. It is repeated in several sections but this snipped section of the form below is the main copy


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  Reply # 1103712 6-Aug-2014 22:44
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vexxxboy: i have one installed and at no time was i told that it wasnt mine and not to remove it . The only way i knew was reading it here , what about the average citizen who would have no idea. 


If you signed the concent to install (which you must have to get an installation)  then you should have read it,  as it plainly says the equipement isnt yours and remains the property of Chorus. It is repeated in several sections but this snipped section of the form below is the main copy



That law of Demolition or what ever it was wont have any affect on this.
Its like saying if high tension 120kva power lines run on my property i can demo the pylon because i can and it is on my property.




 


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  Reply # 1103713 6-Aug-2014 22:44
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Behodar:
DarthKermit: Hehe. Do the ONTs have a transmitter within to report back to HQ should they go missing?

Apparently they're "coded" so that they won't work if moved anyway! Chorus is able to reprogram them to work at the new address, but won't (on the basis that it shouldn't have been moved in the first place).



Yes they are encoded on installation and will only work in the section of network (the same GPON port) that they are installed on (other IDs are also recordeded and used to form part of the provisioning records) - trying to hook it up on another Chorus UFB connection wont do any good at all

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Behodar:
DarthKermit: Hehe. Do the ONTs have a transmitter within to report back to HQ should they go missing?

Apparently they're "coded" so that they won't work if moved anyway! Chorus is able to reprogram them to work at the new address, but won't (on the basis that it shouldn't have been moved in the first place).



Yes they are encoded on installation and will only work in the section of network (the same GPON port) that they are installed on (other IDs are also recordeded and used to form part of the provisioning records) - trying to hook it up on another Chorus UFB connection wont do any good at all


Plus they will dirty the optical SC connector.




 


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  Reply # 1103717 6-Aug-2014 22:51
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TimA:
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Behodar:
DarthKermit: Hehe. Do the ONTs have a transmitter within to report back to HQ should they go missing?

Apparently they're "coded" so that they won't work if moved anyway! Chorus is able to reprogram them to work at the new address, but won't (on the basis that it shouldn't have been moved in the first place).



Yes they are encoded on installation and will only work in the section of network (the same GPON port) that they are installed on (other IDs are also recordeded and used to form part of the provisioning records) - trying to hook it up on another Chorus UFB connection wont do any good at all


Plus they will dirty the optical SC connector.

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  Reply # 1103718 6-Aug-2014 22:59
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DarthKermit:
Lias: I wonder what the legalities are, because as I understand it most demolition contracts basically give ownership of EVERYTHING on the site to the demo companies.




Yeah, it'd be good if someone who works for Chorus would comment in this thread about what they'd do in this kind of situation.

Anyone have a rough idea of what one of them ONTs cost?


About $80 to $140




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  Reply # 1103892 7-Aug-2014 11:16
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Was the power supply there? Chorus charge heaps for them!



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  Reply # 1104020 7-Aug-2014 13:07
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Dabble: Was the power supply there? Chorus charge heaps for them!


Not that I saw it. But there was a lot of junk on the counter.

How much do they charge?




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  Reply # 1104025 7-Aug-2014 13:13
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i never signed anything or was left a copy of anything to read when they installed UFB, was i meant to?




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  Reply # 1104263 7-Aug-2014 17:22
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Follow Up - ONT recovered - No power supply - circuity damaged so couldnt be interigated - physical checks made of possible removal sites - all have no fibre or copper connections anymore

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  Reply # 1104288 7-Aug-2014 18:30
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DarthKermit:
coffeebaron: Maybe Chorus could borrow JohnR's Black Vodafone helicopter and go collect :)


Hehe. Do the ONTs have a transmitter within to report back to HQ should they go missing?


I expect the "transmitter" will be in the form of a one off charge on the customers bill.

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DarthKermit:
Dabble: Was the power supply there? Chorus charge heaps for them!


Not that I saw it. But there was a lot of junk on the counter.

How much do they charge?

 

They charge for a complete ont ~$249 if a PSU goes missing

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  Reply # 1104352 7-Aug-2014 20:18
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Dabble:
DarthKermit:
Dabble: Was the power supply there? Chorus charge heaps for them!


Not that I saw it. But there was a lot of junk on the counter.

How much do they charge?
They charge for a complete ont ~$249 if a PSU goes missing


seems a little steep.. but i suppose its from the position of, this shouldn't be removed from where its installed, so there's no reason the PSU should go walking..

 




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