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Topic # 157548 4-Dec-2014 15:01
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I have been loving UFB in  Johnsonville for the last 18 months - seriously good service. Now however we are moving  to Titahi Bay and although according to Telecom UFB is not yet available. According to the Chorus site  - fibre is due in January. The cables in the street in the area have been laid over the last few months. 

I can't get an ETA from Telecom - and they won't even lodge a request until the current owner asks her (gone for 8 months) tenants which ISP they were using (seriously!) - because there's a connection at the property already (according to them - the place has been empty most of the year it seems unlikely). 

This is made more complex because we are moving a few days before Xmas - don't really want to be weeks without broadband! 

Anyone in Telecom/Spark - here - can you tell me  why on earth it matters that some other provider may have been used in the past? 

Meanwhile - is it worth going with VDSL ? Is it a decent upgrade from ADSL?  What is it exactly? Just fine-tuning ADSL to the best possible speed?  

Also with the arrival of lightbox  and possibly netflex - I'm wondering about having the ONT in  the living room. In my current house it's in my office (I work from home) and we just use the laptop's fast wireless and plug it into the TV.

In the new place the office is nearer the front of the house and where the phone line enters, but both rooms are on the same (1st floor) level.

What is required to add additional hardwired connection to the ONT - is it just a matter of stringing ethernet  cabling under the house and through the wall at each end? Would Chorus do this for me - at extra cost I know - or should I get an electrician to do it. We are likely getting an electrician in soon after we move anyways as the house dates from the "one power plug per  a bedroom will be fine" era of home wiring!  Sorry dumb questions - but we've always basically been wireless at home - and I've  not dealt with cabling since I got out of corporate IT 

In fact now I think of it - I assume because there are 4 Ethernet connections to the modem - we could have up to 4 Ethernet cables from other places in the house e.g. my partners office as well?  




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  Reply # 1188721 4-Dec-2014 15:14
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>In fact now I think of it - I assume because there are 4 Ethernet connections to the modem - we could have up to 4 Ethernet cables from other places in the house e.g. my partners office as well?  <

Are you reffering to the 4 RJ45 ports on the ONT? - if so only one is  active for a connection to your router

You dont connect additional hardware to the ONT but off the Router (RGW - usualy supplied by your provider)

Yes chorus contractors can run CAT6 cables anywhere you like ( yes at your expence) but they wouldnt normaly even be sent out if it is just a change of provider unless you requested them to do extra cableing

I hate to say this but getting a general Electrician to run data cables is like asking for financial advice from your neighbour - they might be able to do it - they may have experiance at it - but would you know that it was correct ? - get a quote from a profesional cabler




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  Reply # 1188724 4-Dec-2014 15:20
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Since the ONT and RGW (modem) are separate devices, you don't have to put the ONT at the centre of your network. You can indeed connect up to four wired computers to the RGW without requiring an additional switch, so there shouldn't be any problems there. Personally I plan to have the ONT in the garage and then feed up to my central cupboard from there.

VDSL is faster than ADSL (usually around 3x as fast for downloads and 10x as fast for uploads) and seems to have around a $10/month premium over basic UFB, but could be used as a stop-gap until you can get UFB installed. VDSL also requires installation but it's a much simpler process. I believe (but you should confirm) that Spark will let you move from VDSL to UFB without any break fees.

Edit: And I agree with InstallerUFB around cables; get it done properly if you can (I've seen some absolute messes, including the state that my current house was in when I got it!)



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  Reply # 1188743 4-Dec-2014 15:32
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I knew I'd find the answers here - yes I meant 4 connections to the router  not the ONT  - blond moment there!  Telecom has said I can take the existing router I have from them at this property. 

This is not just a change of provider - it's a new install (when we get the UFB stage) - Fibre has only gone into the street a month or so back. 

Yes I have agreement with Spark that once fibre becomes available they will allow me to upgrade to Fibre with no break fees.  

The garage is under the house  - unlined and frankly I wouldn't keep delicate electronics there, plus I don't think there is a power switch, which I'm pretty sure Chorus required when they installed in my existing home - the ONT is pretty small and I don't mind it on an interior wall. But you've given me something to think about - whether it's worth actually putting in a home network. Interesting. We have enough old laptops and desktops lying around that we could probably even have a server from the bits! 

BTW sorted out the mystery of the "existing connection" - the first woman I spoke too got the house number wrong!!!! 




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