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  # 98638 6-Dec-2007 20:58
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spetsnaz1: ok i understand your point its just how i write and do in most forums and such and most people seem to understand me. I was in a rush so yes you might not understand it sometimes and im sorry its just who i am i have grown with it like that. I will try my best now to explain. I apologise if you cant read it cause english is my second language and i have no problem with it ive been living here for 12 years now but yes i do write this at school and i do bad at english. But enough with personal stuff im just still waiting for an answer for this question.

Is there a way i can use the internet and phone same time on dial up?

No there is no way to use dialup and phone call on the same line at the same time.

I am intrigued to learn that your first language does not support frequent capitilisation of the first letter of a sentence or the use of paragraphs.

'Its just how I write' is no excuse, especially since you originally said the the reason you were like this was just because you were in  a rush at work.

I just saw this too....

just please if u have nothing good to say dont say anything.

I have plenty of good things to say. I have done my best to help you so far!







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  # 98640 6-Dec-2007 21:05
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The way I see it you have a few options.

a)
Try another broadband company apart from Telecom eg Orcon, Worldxchange, slingshot.

b) Make/buy a wi-fi usb card and see who provides wireless internet to your area.

c) Keep to your dial-up plan.


Feel free to add to the options list....

 
 
 
 


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  # 98642 6-Dec-2007 21:07
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Wakeup: The way I see it you have a few options.

a)
Try another broadband company apart from Telecom eg Orcon, Worldxchange, slingshot.


Feel free to add to the options list....


All of the providers who wholesale broadband will use Telecom at the exchange or cabinet, so if they can connect him, he'd be able to connect through Telecom.




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  # 98650 6-Dec-2007 21:42
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spetsnaz1: My Name is Victor and im 15

I have a big issue and its been driving me crazy, my issue is that i cant get broadband but i live in the dannremora region in auckland, its been like this for past 4 years and im getting sick of it really. Im stuck on dial up for pretty much whole life and im a hardcore gamer

So wat should i do?

...is there any ISP or plan or anything that can get me to broadband?

Hi Victor,

I can sympathise with your situation because I have 2 sons who have been using the internet since they were about 10 years old.  They are both hard-core gamers and if we couldn't get broadband for 4 years, it would drive them crazy Yell

So, I would like to make a helpful suggestion.  You mentioned that some of your friends have used Wireless and have had bad experiences.  From your description, it sounds like Woosh Wireless.  Does their aerial look like a Candlestick which is coloured black?

Woosh is just one type of wireless internet connection.  There are several others, and from my experience, I think you should forget about wired broadband, and use Telecom's Mobile Broadband.  You need to buy one of these:



It plugs into your USB port and in Dannemora, you should experience download speeds of at least 1Mbps which is around 50x faster than dialup Cool

Here is what it will cost:

$199 + GST ($223.87) to sign up on a 2-year contract.

$49.95 + GST ($56.19) per month for 1GB of data, or $10 + GST ($11.25) extra if you use up to 2GB.

If you use more than 2GB per month, it will get terribly expensive, so DON'T do it!!!

But right now you are on dial-up, so 2GB of data per month should be plenty more than you need.

What do you think about this idea?

I hope it will help you.

Cheers,
Grant.



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  # 98665 6-Dec-2007 22:42
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tonyhughes: no harsh feelings mate but just please dont be too rough on me i am not mr perfect while i still try my best to improve my grammar dont be too harsh on me, but thanks for your help i apperciate it, thanks for answering my question im really sorry if my grammar disappoints you, "no one is perfect", i still try my best just forgive me im not trying to get myself banned or anything im here to ask for some help i didnt want any trouble with anyone if im still making mistakes then i dont know what to do seems that im not doing well eh?Just what really dissappoints me is that my grammar seems to be more a matter of importance than my problem, no offense but that is just my opinon and i would just like it to stop from here, please leave grammar aside for now, i know many adults who have grammar errors and i they would be dissappointed if someone had told them they have to write so perfectly when they try there best, >> "practice makes perfect"<< , though i still try improve my grammar there is no reason to act so harshly towards a person with bad grammar, sure im not a perfect writer ive had trouble with english grammar so if its still a problem to you then it seems you dont want to listen. I hope you understand me im not here to play games with you guys i am not purposely annoying anyone with my grammar but its just me , you might think its just an excuse but to me its who i am is more important.And if you still disagree with me fine.. i respect your opinon. i hope you understand me tony just dont take things personal i wasnt here to start an arguement and i never wanted people to flame me or treat me inconsideritly for my spelling errors. Just please understand me :) thank you for your advice and such and ill sure work on what you said just please respect my opinon aswell i hope you understand me :) cheers tony

wakeup: thanks for your reply i will try the 2 options above (a) and (b)

cokemaster: again i apperciate your reply ill try and see what i can do about it

grant_k: thanks for your info the think the 2gb deal at $56.60 is too expensive my family are heavy internet users and it is too pricy for such a deal, i was looking for something cheaper and more bandwidth with about 15-30gb for under $50-60, but thanks for your reply, no they werent using woosh they all had xtra wireless one had the worst he would disconnect every 10min at midnight and early morning 10pm-12pm, yes i wouldnt mind that plan but then again it is expensive my family wouldnt afford it, since my parents are divorced and my mother is on support income and that i live with her

Plus the 2gb isnt enough but thanks anyway, is there any cheaper plans or plans for $30-60 with wireless and that have a 15-30gb cap, i wouldnt mind the upload speed as im not a uploader anyway , any fast enough plan that has a good cap with around 15-30gb and a 256kbit download speed im fine. i checked the plans at xnet and i was pretty blasted with the prices there but they not wireless :( . Reason i dont want wireless is because many people i know and many gamers have problems with it because it has bad stability and disconnection issues. But ill find out more about it i just wondering if i can get a better deal?



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  # 98670 6-Dec-2007 23:14
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Fraktul: Dannemora is pretty well covered by Wired Country?

f you have line of site to the Otahuhu Substation transmission site then you could ditch Telecom all together with a VoIP offering.

wmoore: Victor

Sometimes in life there are things that we want, but we can't get. There are other parts of Auckland like Swanson, Greenithe
Pt Chev that some people can't get Broadband. Also Telecom are not lying to you. Yes people around you may have
broadband, but they could be connected via a Cabinet. Try Orcon or Xnet and see what they say.


Hmm, again, mostly covered by Wired Country?


Yes indeed. As long as you have line of sight.Smile




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  # 98674 6-Dec-2007 23:27
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Victor

Please remember to use your Shift key on your keyboard. So i becomes I. i should only be in a word.
Break your ideas or points into paragraphs. I would leave a couple of spaces between each paragraph.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph for more information.

And stop saying sorry to Tony all the time.




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  # 98675 6-Dec-2007 23:31
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spetsnaz1: grant_k: thanks for your info the think the 2gb deal at $56.60 is too expensive my family are heavy internet users

But right now, you are all on dial-up right?

In this case, I don't see how you could use more than 2GB per month, because the transfer speed on dial-up is so slow.

On my internet plan, my wife and I usually don't use more than 2GB and yet we use the internet all day and until about midnight every night for our work and hobbies.  Our main usage is e-mail and web surfing, on-line forums etc.

There are 3 main ways you will exceed 2GB per month:

1)  Peer-to-Peer downloads via Bit Torrent, Limewire etc
2)  Watching a lot of YouTube videos
3)  On-line gaming all day / every day

Sure, I know you are a keen gamer, but you do go to school every week day don't you?

My 2 sons play a lot of on-line games and their usage, together with their sister is about 3GB per month unless they download something large like ISO files, game update patches etc.

spetsnaz1: ...it is too pricy for such a deal, i was looking for something cheaper and more bandwidth with about 15-30gb for under $50-60...

Unfortunately, you won't find this sort of deal on wireless.  Vodafone have a 6GB deal, but it's around $90 per month incl. GST Money mouth

spetsnaz1: Reason i dont want wireless is because many people i know and many gamers have problems with it because it has bad stability and disconnection issues.

I have been using Telecom Mobile Broadband for about the last 6 months and I certainly never experienced any "bad stability" or "disconnection issues".  I think you are getting confused with other wireless systems which are not of high quality like Telecom Mobile Broadband.  Previously I used Vodafone GPRS and it was a waste of time, having problems with the issues you mention.

Telecom Mobile Broadband is good enough that I can use Skype and other VoIP services over it, as well as remote control sessions with the PC at my office.  If there were stability and disconnection issues, none of these services would be possible.

spetsnaz1: yes i wouldnt mind that plan but then again it is expensive my family wouldnt afford it, since my parents are divorced and my mother is on support income and that i live with her

Then my suggestion is that you get a wireless data card just for you and let the rest of the family stay on dial-up -- it should be good enough for them.  If you can't afford $56.60 per month, then get a part-time job at the local supermarket or gas station to pay for it.  You can make enough money in about 6 hours per month to pay for your broadband Cool

Anyway, those are just my suggestions -- I don't know enough about your situation to know if it will work out or not.

Whatever you do, I wish you all the best with your studies and hope that you can find a way to get off dial-up and onto broadband Smile

Cheers,
Grant.



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# 98679 7-Dec-2007 00:00
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ok ok i get you , I wont say sorry i was just upset that tony seemed like he didnt care about my opinon and I just wanted to apologise for the mistakes I did which werent on purpose, heck if this is so harsh I might as well not post here anymore,i dont see how this forum judges people by how perfect their grammar rather than helping them out ( No offense ) , I really would like if you guys stop commenting about my grammar I just think enough is enough you have told me many times. Quit bugging me about it im not a perfect typer. i would really wished you guys would stop judging my grammar, it just dissappoints me to see some of you treating me poorly cause of my grammar. All i asked was some help and i deeply apologise if my grammar isnt >>EXCELLENT<<

Thanks for your replies but this forum isnt for me i just dont feel treated fairly well because my grammar is too important to talk about other than solving my problem, really if grammar is so important then why should ask for people for help here?? you are here to help people not judge them about their grammar it is rude, i am sorry if i am actting like this but i feel as if you guys care more about my spelling errors,capital mistakes etc. all i ask is stop with this nonsense its just going too far.

I thank everyone who helped me here but i feel as if some people here are mistreating me , i have tried my best , I am not perfect for you :(  and i am outraged at this.sorry but im getting to a point where it ridicious , i really would apperciate if you guys stop treating me like im some little boy. I came here to ask for help not to be judged.. sorry but im afraid some of you guys not willing to stop with this grammar subject as i would. Seems im going to be mature and not discuss it, and fine you dont have to listen to my opinon and that is your choice. Im just really fed up right now and im sorry for this but im not a perfect person like some of you who  have better english than me. Really its getting to a point where it has to stop so please lets work on solving my problem rather than judging about my grammar ? " who are you here to judge??"

I know some of you have helped me but please can we stop with the grammar subject is it really worth arguing over? if you prove your point does it make you a better person than i am, is it right or wrong to judge someone because they are different?

So i ask nicely and all towards all of you dont try to judge me, it is not the case here.

So im going to stop with this nonsense, if you bann me fine go ahead i wasnt here to start a war i was here asking for help and expecting a few helpful comments and i never expected this, and if it makes you feel better im fine to flame me go ahead i will just ignore it.It is better we just stop this nonsense as i beg you please try not to complain or judge me by my grammar i have gotten to a point where ive tried my best but this is just isnt to good for some of you at least you sure understand what i am talking about.

So enough with this

please help me solve my problem, is there a deal i can get for wireless mobile broadband which i can get at $50 at least or under, and has a good cap at 15-20gb with a good download speed, any good ISPs out there i should ring up im starting to hear some bad things about orcon? what ISP should look for what gives the best results?



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  # 98680 7-Dec-2007 00:05
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grant_k:
spetsnaz1: grant_k: thanks for your info the think the 2gb deal at $56.60 is too expensive my family are heavy internet users

But right now, you are all on dial-up right?

In this case, I don't see how you could use more than 2GB per month, because the transfer speed on dial-up is so slow.

On my internet plan, my wife and I usually don't use more than 2GB and yet we use the internet all day and until about midnight every night for our work and hobbies. Our main usage is e-mail and web surfing, on-line forums etc.

There are 3 main ways you will exceed 2GB per month:

1) Peer-to-Peer downloads via Bit Torrent, Limewire etc
2) Watching a lot of YouTube videos
3) On-line gaming all day / every day

Sure, I know you are a keen gamer, but you do go to school every week day don't you?

My 2 sons play a lot of on-line games and their usage, together with their sister is about 3GB per month unless they download something large like ISO files, game update patches etc.

spetsnaz1: ...it is too pricy for such a deal, i was looking for something cheaper and more bandwidth with about 15-30gb for under $50-60...

Unfortunately, you won't find this sort of deal on wireless. Vodafone have a 6GB deal, but it's around $90 per month incl. GST Money mouth

spetsnaz1: Reason i dont want wireless is because many people i know and many gamers have problems with it because it has bad stability and disconnection issues.

I have been using Telecom Mobile Broadband for about the last 6 months and I certainly never experienced any "bad stability" or "disconnection issues". I think you are getting confused with other wireless systems which are not of high quality like Telecom Mobile Broadband. Previously I used Vodafone GPRS and it was a waste of time, having problems with the issues you mention.

Telecom Mobile Broadband is good enough that I can use Skype and other VoIP services over it, as well as remote control sessions with the PC at my office. If there were stability and disconnection issues, none of these services would be possible.

spetsnaz1: yes i wouldnt mind that plan but then again it is expensive my family wouldnt afford it, since my parents are divorced and my mother is on support income and that i live with her

Then my suggestion is that you get a wireless data card just for you and let the rest of the family stay on dial-up -- it should be good enough for them. If you can't afford $56.60 per month, then get a part-time job at the local supermarket or gas station to pay for it. You can make enough money in about 6 hours per month to pay for your broadband Cool

Anyway, those are just my suggestions -- I don't know enough about your situation to know if it will work out or not.

Whatever you do, I wish you all the best with your studies and hope that you can find a way to get off dial-up and onto broadband Smile

Cheers,
Grant.


thanks for your advice you are really nice

i am on dial unlimited plan , and im on 12 week holiday i have 10 weeks off school left, and im sad to hear i can not get a cheaper deal, i just feel like a 2gb is not worth $50 when i can get a wired broadband at 15gb at same price and faster internet speed, i am not currently at school and didnt do exams due to my grand fathers funeral 2 weeks ago, i work at my fathers but i usually dont get payed much and i plan to get a good job later,but i just feel as if its a rip off paying $90 for a 6gb deal? is there any other options besides wireless and satelite, can u buy ports?

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# 98681 7-Dec-2007 00:11
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spetsnaz1: i just feel like a 2gb is not worth $50 when i can get a wired broadband at 15gb at same price and faster internet speed


But the thing is, you can't get wired broadband. Grant has given you a viable alternative. $50 for 1GB and 60 for 2GB is not a bad deal for mobile data.

If you PM me some details, I will try and have a look to see why you can't get ADSL.

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  # 98683 7-Dec-2007 00:59
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i have sent you a email cheers :)

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  # 98724 7-Dec-2007 11:48
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spetsnaz1: ok ok i get you , I wont say sorry i was just upset that tony seemed like he didnt care about my opinon and I just wanted to apologise for the mistakes I did which werent on purpose, heck if this is so harsh I might as well not post here anymore,i dont see how this forum judges people by how perfect their grammar rather than helping them out ( No offense ) , I really would like if you guys stop commenting about my grammar I just think enough is enough you have told me many times. Quit bugging me about it im not a perfect typer. i would really wished you guys would stop judging my grammar, it just dissappoints me to see some of you treating me poorly cause of my grammar. All i asked was some help and i deeply apologise if my grammar isnt >>EXCELLENT<<

Thanks for your replies but this forum isnt for me i just dont feel treated fairly well because my grammar is too important to talk about other than solving my problem, really if grammar is so important then why should ask for people for help here?? you are here to help people not judge them about their grammar it is rude, i am sorry if i am actting like this but i feel as if you guys care more about my spelling errors,capital mistakes etc. all i ask is stop with this nonsense its just going too far.

I thank everyone who helped me here but i feel as if some people here are mistreating me , i have tried my best , I am not perfect for you :( and i am outraged at this.sorry but im getting to a point where it ridicious , i really would apperciate if you guys stop treating me like im some little boy. I came here to ask for help not to be judged.. sorry but im afraid some of you guys not willing to stop with this grammar subject as i would. Seems im going to be mature and not discuss it, and fine you dont have to listen to my opinon and that is your choice. Im just really fed up right now and im sorry for this but im not a perfect person like some of you who have better english than me. Really its getting to a point where it has to stop so please lets work on solving my problem rather than judging about my grammar ? " who are you here to judge??"

I know some of you have helped me but please can we stop with the grammar subject is it really worth arguing over? if you prove your point does it make you a better person than i am, is it right or wrong to judge someone because they are different?

So i ask nicely and all towards all of you dont try to judge me, it is not the case here.

So im going to stop with this nonsense, if you bann me fine go ahead i wasnt here to start a war i was here asking for help and expecting a few helpful comments and i never expected this, and if it makes you feel better im fine to flame me go ahead i will just ignore it.It is better we just stop this nonsense as i beg you please try not to complain or judge me by my grammar i have gotten to a point where ive tried my best but this is just isnt to good for some of you at least you sure understand what i am talking about.

So enough with this

please help me solve my problem, is there a deal i can get for wireless mobile broadband which i can get at $50 at least or under, and has a good cap at 15-20gb with a good download speed, any good ISPs out there i should ring up im starting to hear some bad things about orcon? what ISP should look for what gives the best results?


Victor

I was just trying to help you. I wasn't judging  you at all.  You seem rather upset about this whole grammar thing.
Don't let it get to you. I think maybe there could be other issues in your life, that is making you upset.
Keep smiling and laugh a little each day.

 




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  # 98726 7-Dec-2007 12:01
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I'll just answer you....

Yes, it is possible.  Mainly with the use of software, like this:  http://www.internet-call-waiting-software.com-http.com/how-to-receive-phone-calls-when-using-dialup-modem-to-internet.html  It basically puts your dialup internet connection "on hold", while you pick up the other call.....  Works ok, but not flawlessly....


As for your forum posts...  Just press "enter" twice after every 3-4 sentences you type, ok???  That should be easy enough, and other forum users would think your grammar is just fine....

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  # 98727 7-Dec-2007 12:15
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Victor I hope nzbnw can get you some help getting adsl, it will be the cheapest route for you.

As for the grammar, it may not be your point of interest, for most kids (boys in particular) they could not give a damn, however you will do youself a big favour if you used some structure to your writings. As it is most folk will just ignore your posts as they are too hard to read as they have absolutely no structure.

Break your thoughts into clear sentences and group sentences into logical paragraphs. Things like applying capitilisation may seem irrelivent to you, however if you want folk to take you seriously then you must apply some basic grammatic rules. You might surprise yourself that by structuring your writing you can express yourself in less words than by just charging at it.

All the best in getting  your broadband sorted, if you cannot get ADSL then for a budget option taking up the home brew WiFi route may well work for you.

Cheers
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